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Make you thinks she means it this time
She'll tear a hole in you, the one you can't repair
But I still love her, I don't really care
When we were young, oh oh, we did enough
When it got cold, ooh ooh, we bundled up
I cant be told, ah ah it can't be done
It's better to feel pain, than nothing at all
The opposite of love's indifference
Pay attention now, I'm standing on your porch screaming out
And I won't leave until you come downstairs
So keep your head up, keep your love
keep your head up, my love
Keep your head up, my love
Keep your head up, keep your love
I don't blame ya dear for running like you did, all these years
I would do the same, your best believe
The highway signs say we're close, but I don't read those things anymore
I never trusted my own eyes
When we were young oh oh, we did enough
When it got cold, ooh ooh we bundled up
I can't be told, ah ah, can't be done
So keep your head up, keep your love
keep your head up, my love
Keep your head up, my love
keep your head up, keep your love
One would hope that the nattering nabob's of negativity would realize that their opinions don't really carry much sway and just forgo posting. Hope springs eternal
I believe this sound first originated during the Civil War. The Confederates made this sound when they charged Union positions. Well, at least the musically inclined and "hip" rebels who worked out and had trimmed beards did, anyway. This happened after they ate their avocado toast and drank their craft pour-over coffee for breakfasts. Gen. Lee always insisted they eat healthy breakfasts and besides, the troops attacked better after having caffeine. And then they had craft beer at night, but possibly also hard ciders and seltzers.
The opposite of love is indifference'
I don't know a more depressing - yet painfully relatable - lyric than that.
Look at it a different way - when you like a particular artist or a particular style of music, oftentimes you barely even notice all of the tropes & hooks that are taking place in the song. Or you may acknowledge them and remark that they work. Then someone else comes along using the same songwriting tricks and the tunes don't hit the same way, and now the manipulation within the music is apparent to you and you dislike the tactic. It's not necessarily that the trope is tired or awful, but that you're aware of the trick before it has a chance to work and you're annoyed that they tried to manipulate you.
When you were a kid, you listened to and probably enjoyed pretty simple music. Maybe you got introduced to more mature stuff through your parents. As you grew older, the tunes got more complicated, more nuanced, more novel. Chances are that you may have grown to a point where new music similar to what you heard as a youth no longer has the pull that it once did. (For some people, that hold never lets go and they don't "evolve" as a listener.) You learn about new & varied styles of music, your knowledge about song construction expands, and your expectations for what you want out of what you listen to grows.
This song by The Lumineers is finely constructed and strongly performed. You may or may not like it, but I doubt RP would have added it to the playlist if it wasn’t well done. It works for a lot of listeners on here and many more in the general populace because it has catchy hooks, interesting lyrics, and a good energy that can sweep you up with it. I love singing along to songs at a concert; I’m that annoying bastard that sings his ass off the entire night and goes home hoarse. I don’t need “hey-oh” portions to get me to participate, but I like this song and a lot of other similar stuff on here. I also love more introspective stuff like Talk Talk or Brahms or Miles Davis or whatever.
If you don’t like this song or other ones similar to it, that’s fine. There may be some aspect to it that doesn’t work for you and the songwriting tropes that work for many other tunes, including ones you probably enjoy, are painfully aware to you as an educated listener. For others, those nooks & tricks are immaterial or are the very things that claim their interest and their enjoyment is completely legitimate.
For those confused about what exactly the "millennial whoop" is, it isn't the stomping and clapping stuff that bands like this do, but rather a vocal pattern, alternating between the fifth and third note of the scale. In this song it appears in the "oh-oh's" and "ooh-ooh's" of the chorus section after "when we were young" and "when we got cold."
Mr UbersmartGuy, which anesthetic would you recommend for the pain caused by a broken heart?
In my case, bourbon and a variety of women worked well. Got tired of the transient feeling of that life style ... after 8 years.
And I'm commenting because the Lumineers aren't holding my attention.
Dear Haters... Just push the button that forwards to the next. Stop with your idiocy. This music has it's place here and the majority of us like it.
Nicely said, thanks.
This is an odd example of a song with an average rating of 7 and largely negative comments.
One would hope that the nattering nabob's of negativity would realize that their opinions don't really carry much sway and just forgo posting. Hope springs eternal
Sounds like Mumford & Sons whose songs all sound the same, with or without the 'exciting' banjo breaking out.
These guys are the second wave of fake-Americana / hipster-folk. They are to Mumford & Sons what Creed is to Pearl Jam.
This is an odd example of a song with an average rating of 7 and largely negative comments.
RP always grades on a curve.
The opposite of love's indifference
Leonard Cohen revealed the "secret" to be "Do dah dah." or in this case, "oh oh ooo ooo."
Mumford much?
always too much
Stubborn Love, as with most of their other pathetic offerings, rates a lousy 2. I'm not twirling in my kitchen, I'm running to hit the skip button.
Yeah we've all been there
That's the beauty of this - it's simplicity and common connection with many of us...
then why are anesthetics a thing, smart guy?
Mr UbersmartGuy, which anesthetic would you recommend for the pain caused by a broken heart?
Booze and cake?
then why are anesthetics a thing, smart guy?
Mr UbersmartGuy, which anesthetic would you recommend for the pain caused by a broken heart?
"She'll tear a hole in you, the one you can't repair
But I still love her, I don't really care"
No shit...
Yeah we've all been there
She'll tear a hole in you, the one you can't repair
But I still love her, I don't really care
Yes, plenty of my favorite songs have places to sing along, like Hey Jude. But this feels so manipulative.
Sounds like you just love the sound of your own voice... so clever...
I hear you
then why are anesthetics a thing, smart guy?
Yes, plenty of my favorite songs have places to sing along, like Hey Jude. But this feels so manipulative.
I haven't heard it in a while so I was happy to hear it, plus they are from Denver where I live.
It seems a good portion of their material includes that construct, in addition to that horribly ubiquitous "millennial whoop" trope.
Agree completely and frankly I can't tell these guys apart from Mumford sons, Avett brothers. All interchangeable to me.
Yes, plenty of my favorite songs have places to sing along, like Hey Jude. But this feels so manipulative.
It seems a good portion of their material includes that construct, in addition to that horribly ubiquitous "millennial whoop" trope.
fatcatjb wrote:
patrick30 wrote:
Me too, was a great night at the pub yesterday!!
What? Could you please repeat?
I really haven't heard this song very much (here or on the radio), but I don't think very much of it either, so I guess it all works out.
Yes, plenty of my favorite songs have places to sing along, like Hey Jude. But this feels so manipulative.
Me too, was a great night at the pub yesterday!!
"HEAD UP"
Very funny...Makes me wonder...did we start this ? Mumford IS an RP band afterall. Or was.
Just because you hear it on the radio doesn't mean it's bad music.
No, but it is a damn good indicator unless it is a college radio station.
Just because you hear it on the radio doesn't mean it's bad music.
pk53 wrote:
I think they sound more like Lumin & Sons.
seems like there are numerous bands going after that sound. 5 and drifting down.
Yep, it's like the Mumfordeers.
I think they sound more like Lumin & Sons.
Yes, indeed.
From the appropriately named Nobb.
Nothing wrong with being compared with Mumford OR Phil Phillips....
Yep, it's like the Mumfordeers.
What is Elbow doing in that list? Their music is nothing like this. And they've been around for 10 years.
I agree.
braziiiillll !
coachc wrote:
pk53 wrote:
sqqqrly wrote:
i agree, much nicer than avett's or m&s.
pk53 wrote:
Same here. Just moved from a 7 to an 8.
..it does sorta, sans the wall of banjo..i'm not gonna hold it against the Lumie's, though (besides Mumford doesn't irk me as much as some)..
..nice enough lyricality & varied tuneage here (imho)..
Indeed
Yup, 'cept without the faux Dave Mathews voice.
Marginal- Mediocre
Agreed. The first couple chords always fake me out the same way, and I go dashing for the mute/PSD button. Not quite as painful as M&S though; I can just tolerate.
How could you say that? Obviously Tom Petty.
yep. helped me rating it up from 7 —> 9. I like the Lumineers.
I have no idea what your saying my French Canadian friend but goddamn, I like the way you say it!
I also got it on 8 now, but maybe will settle again on 7....
Just bumped 7 to 8
I also got it on 8 now, but maybe will settle again on 7....
this is growing on me.
Reading through quite a few of the comments for this song, it feels like much of the negativity stems from the idea that The Lumineers are using tricks to get people to react to the music. But that's the thing about pretty much all music: a large portion of EVERY SINGLE SONG is trying to get you to react to it. That's the point of music.
Look at it a different way - when you like a particular artist or a particular style of music, oftentimes you barely even notice all of the tropes & hooks that are taking place in the song. Or you may acknowledge them and remark that they work. Then someone else comes along using the same songwriting tricks and the tunes don't hit the same way, and now the manipulation within the music is apparent to you and you dislike the tactic. It's not necessarily that the trope is tired or awful, but that you're aware of the trick before it has a chance to work and you're annoyed that they tried to manipulate you.
When you were a kid, you listened to and probably enjoyed pretty simple music. Maybe you got introduced to more mature stuff through your parents. As you grew older, the tunes got more complicated, more nuanced, more novel. Chances are that you may have grown to a point where new music similar to what you heard as a youth no longer has the pull that it once did. (For some people, that hold never lets go and they don't "evolve" as a listener.) You learn about new & varied styles of music, your knowledge about song construction expands, and your expectations for what you want out of what you listen to grows.
This song by The Lumineers is finely constructed and strongly performed. You may or may not like it, but I doubt RP would have added it to the playlist if it wasn’t well done. It works for a lot of listeners on here and many more in the general populace because it has catchy hooks, interesting lyrics, and a good energy that can sweep you up with it. I love singing along to songs at a concert; I’m that annoying bastard that sings his ass off the entire night and goes home hoarse. I don’t need “hey-oh” portions to get me to participate, but I like this song and a lot of other similar stuff on here. I also love more introspective stuff like Talk Talk or Brahms or Miles Davis or whatever.
If you don’t like this song or other ones similar to it, that’s fine. There may be some aspect to it that doesn’t work for you and the songwriting tropes that work for many other tunes, including ones you probably enjoy, are painfully aware to you as an educated listener. For others, those nooks & tricks are immaterial or are the very things that claim their interest and their enjoyment is completely legitimate.
Abbb sooo lute ehh ly!!!!!!