Listening to The Smashing Pumpkins on Radio Paradise

blotto wrote:

I'll kiss anyone tonight? wtf? Billy needs to get laid, methinks.

thought I left a message here 11 years ago.

Posted 3 months ago by blotto [ Reply ]

Each of these musicians kicks ass. Together, they all make some of the best "Turn it up!" jams on the planet!

Posted 9 months ago by coloradojohn [ Reply ]

It's absolutely lovely to hear some more recent Smashing Pumpkins on here. I'm a huge, huge fan, and whereas I love their 90s albums, their 2010s (and later!) albums are also excellent, but people often overlook them. Thank you RP!

Posted 1 year ago by libertinesupreme [ Reply ]

Never liked the screeching sound of Smashing Pumpkins but this is good.

Posted 1 year ago by timmus [ Reply ]

i remember hearing this one for the first time and being blown away. i was never a huge fan of this band. often, billy's voice grates on my nerves. but, wow. this one just grabbed me from the first listen. love it.

Posted 1 year ago by lily34 [ Reply ]

The segue from Speed of Life by Jude Cole to this song was just exquisite... well done as always BillG!

Posted 2 years ago by libertinesupreme [ Reply ]

kenmo wrote:

Right you are... but one thing, what is whinging? Maybe you mean whining?

I suspect he meant whinging. If you had noticed the "do yourself a favour," you might have noticed that he favors the "favour" spelling of favor, which would suggest he is not on the same side of the Atlantic as you, and therefore doesn't share your aesthetic about his use of the perfectly valid word, "whinging."

Now back to your regularly scheduled programme.

Posted 2 years ago by bc [ Reply ]

Easyrider wrote:

Quit whinging and do yourself a favour,tune into bland commercial radio which obviously suits you better.

Right you are... but one thing, what is whinging? Maybe you mean whining?

Posted 2 years ago by kenmo [ Reply ]

Worth having for the album cover.

Posted 2 years ago by crispynz1 [ Reply ]

I don't like Smashing Pumpkins, but this isn't bad

Posted 2 years ago by smartn1 [ Reply ]

This is some good Pumpkin Pie I surmise.

Posted 2 years ago by Rockit999 [ Reply ]

So nice to hear some syncopated drumming, it's almost polyphonic

Posted 2 years ago by BBoyes [ Reply ]

Never liked Billy's singing much, but in this song it sounds different, it is way better!

Posted 2 years ago by Vbdegroot [ Reply ]

Good tune!

Posted 2 years ago by joejennings [ Reply ]

Quit whinging and do yourself a favour,tune into bland commercial radio which obviously suits you better.

Posted 3 years ago by Easyrider [ Reply ]

Maybe you don't know that 90% of all art comes out of "whiny, angst, pain, anger, despair".

idiot_wind wrote:

One of the most over-rated bands ever. The guy's voice SUCKS.

This whiny, angst, pain, anger, despair formula for song writing is way too predictable and unbearable.

My god, when will RnR evolve beyond this formula that's been in effect for 20+ years!

Is RnR dead?

Posted 3 years ago by nicknt [ Reply ]

I'm always interested in the album covers. (I'm a graphic designer.) I looked this one up. The album cover features the North Shore Sanitary District Tower.
It's located in Highland Park, Illinois. It was built in 1931 to provide ventilation for the local sewer system. What's really interesting about the Wiki entry for the North Shore Sanitary District Tower is that at the bottom of the entry, somebody's added this weird...I don't what to call it...declamation?

"shore, shore shore shore. shore shore shore, shore shore shore shore!"

This guy was so impressed by the tower he got a tat of it on his arm. Wow. That's some dedication to architecture.

Posted 3 years ago by jtherieau [ Reply ]

Sure. This is the perfect segue from "Thick As A Brick". Naturally. From one mad artistic epic to another.

Posted 3 years ago by MassivRuss [ Reply ]

Unfortunately, a band that is a shell of its former self. This song is not bad, but not great either.

Posted 3 years ago by aonley [ Reply ]

joempie wrote:

I thought this band was called 'Smashing Pumpkins', without the The. At least, that's what was written on Siamese Dream. Then one album later, the The was on the cover as well. Did they actually change their name? I know, it may seem pretty unimportant, but I find the name much more interesting when I understand that it's about someone who is smashing pumpkins, than about pumpkins that look smashing :)

It looks like a 50/50 thing. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Intentional oversight? Or publicity stunt?

Posted 4 years ago by wk3 [ Reply ]

Sweet as F*** - God Bless them and all who sails in them

Posted 4 years ago by arserocket [ Reply ]

Never heard this album
Interesting sound for the ol' Pumpkins, I say they pulled it off

Posted 4 years ago by ExploitingChaos [ Reply ]

No Smashing Pumpkins fan, but speaking of "kiss anyone tonight," there's an appealing little Euro kinda movie in Amazon Prime titled 2 Nights Till Morning. About all that, er, kinda thing.

Posted 5 years ago by Grayson [ Reply ]

Yikes! Where is the PSD?

Posted 5 years ago by idiot_wind [ Reply ]

Yeoleman wrote:

Background keyboards at beginning sounds like they ripped it from Ratchet & Clank...

To me it sounds like keyboards in "Mr. Universe" by [Ian] Gillan.

Posted 5 years ago by lje [ Reply ]

Is he still doing professional wrestling gigs?

Now there's dedication to the music profession. Just like Jaggar, McCartney, Clapton, etc.

Posted 5 years ago by idiot_wind [ Reply ]

thewiseking wrote:

the vomit leaves your mouth
if only the shit could leave your head

Wow, wiseking, it appears that you aren't open to different opinions.

Is that wise?

Posted 5 years ago by idiot_wind [ Reply ]

idiot_wind wrote:

I'm making it to PSD, just in time...before the vomit leaves my mouth.

the vomit leaves your mouth
if only the shit could leave your head

Posted 5 years ago by thewiseking [ Reply ]

Naysayers be damned... Billy Corgan is a musician, like him or not. Respect.

Posted 6 years ago by Tippster [ Reply ]

I'm making it to PSD, just in time...before the vomit leaves my mouth.

Posted 7 years ago by idiot_wind [ Reply ]

Nice segue from R.E.M.'s Walking Unafraid.

Heard them having a screaming fit from the green room at Metropol in Pgh about D'arcy's drug problem. Billy was kicking her out of the band at this point.

Posted 7 years ago by countyman [ Reply ]

joempie wrote:

I thought this band was called 'Smashing Pumpkins', without the The. At least, that's what was written on Siamese Dream. Then one album later, the The was on the cover as well. Did they actually change their name? I know, it may seem pretty unimportant, but I find the name much more interesting when I understand that it's about someone who is smashing pumpkins, than about pumpkins that look smashing :)

yes, yes, yes, I agree Sir

Posted 7 years ago by Skydog [ Reply ]

I thought this band was called 'Smashing Pumpkins', without the The. At least, that's what was written on Siamese Dream. Then one album later, the The was on the cover as well. Did they actually change their name? I know, it may seem pretty unimportant, but I find the name much more interesting when I understand that it's about someone who is smashing pumpkins, than about pumpkins that look smashing :)

Posted 8 years ago by joempie [ Reply ]

Love the Shine On You Crazy Diamon-ish intro.

Posted 8 years ago by rwhardy [ Reply ]

trevc wrote:

We can have this crap, but nothing from Captain Beefheart.

Safe as Pumpkin! Why not?

Posted 8 years ago by tonypf [ Reply ]

I was not a big Pumpkins fan when I was in high school and university and when they were at their peak. So maybe that helps me appreciate this more. It just sounds like a nicely textured, nuanced rock track to me. I saw a concert doc where they perform the whole album live, and really enjoyed it.

Posted 8 years ago by mdnlsn [ Reply ]

trevc wrote:

We can have this crap, but nothing from Captain Beefheart.

Indeed. Captain Beefheart had some pretty normalish songs, to some extent, that should fit in nicely here. Not maybe Neon Dream of a Octafish, mind you, but there should be some suitable options.

Posted 9 years ago by bam23 [ Reply ]

idiot_wind wrote:

Constant whining...or despair,or angst, or pain.

Check the acoustics of your surroundings, that may just be an echo.

Posted 9 years ago by dwhayslett [ Reply ]

So two years ago OLD JEFFRO says (about Coldplay) don't worry, the next song will be up soon.
And Kurtster says, as long as it's not a Smashing Pumpkins song.
Now that's funny Bill.

Posted 9 years ago by dingleberry [ Reply ]

Tedious and yet at the same time mediocre.
Huge audience for this, I suppose, but not me.

Posted 9 years ago by jackie0 [ Reply ]

Post-prog.

Nice.

Posted 9 years ago by westslope [ Reply ]

I did not even hear that segue! (Out of Coldplay's "Talk.")

Bill, you've done it again.

Posted 9 years ago by RParadise [ Reply ]

We can have this crap, but nothing from Captain Beefheart.

Posted 9 years ago by trevc [ Reply ]

idiot_wind wrote:

(snip)
Is RnR dead?

Yes,
and it has been for 38 years - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-VSDZuRvu0

Posted 9 years ago by springof63 [ Reply ]

Anybody else hear Tool's 10,000 Days intro within the intro to this? .oO( a seemingly ban-worthy and/or shameful question in these parts )

Posted 9 years ago by skeeter [ Reply ]

Not Billy Corgan!!! (inside joke) The rock band I would be if I could...Smashing Pumpkins...

Posted 9 years ago by hempmandan [ Reply ]

What kind of cheese do they want?

What kind of cheese do they want?

The cheese must go with all the "whining" fromthis band. Constant whining...or despair,or angst, or pain.

My gosh...it's like the are following a formula....add in some "thud and drone" sound, and you got a million seller.

Posted 10 years ago by idiot_wind [ Reply ]

crogers wrote:

Great tune!

Now, if Brother Billy could stop singing like a harpooned fur seal, this new iteration of the band would really have something that appeals broadly across the generations. Of course, then they'd have to call themselves The Superb Squash or The Dandy Zucchinis. Probably wouldn't fly.

I'd buy anything by The Superb Squash. I really would

Posted 10 years ago by MrsTom [ Reply ]

WhiteWater wrote:

Every time this is played the opening sequence makes me think it's a Younger Brother track.

I think that every time too.

Posted 10 years ago by jnesser [ Reply ]

Every time this is played the opening sequence makes me think it's a Younger Brother track.

Posted 10 years ago by WhiteWater [ Reply ]

Background keyboards at beginning sounds like they ripped it from Ratchet & Clank...

Posted 10 years ago by Yeoleman [ Reply ]

This is growing on me.

Posted 10 years ago by BobLoblaw [ Reply ]

Did somebody mention smashing pumpkins?

Posted 10 years ago by moodfood [ Reply ]

Upon hearing this at first, I thought it was 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond'...by PF. Kinda glad it isn't...one of the better SP tunes.

Posted 10 years ago by ziakut [ Reply ]

I have to admit I am starting to like this...no band has ever redefined itself successfully...this is not a bad college try

Posted 10 years ago by rdo [ Reply ]

Great guitar sound, terrible voice

Posted 11 years ago by southcoastsounds [ Reply ]

One of the most over-rated bands ever. The guy's voice SUCKS.

This whiny, angst, pain, anger, despair formula for song writing is way too predictable and unbearable.

My god, when will RnR evolve beyond this formula that's been in effect for 20+ years!

Is RnR dead?

Posted 11 years ago by idiot_wind [ Reply ]

kcar wrote:

Not for me. I was very happy when SP reunited but their Act 2 just doesn't grab me. Shame.

Weird, I actually rather like this new SP, and wasn't real keen on Act 1.

Posted 11 years ago by RedGuitar [ Reply ]

I dig this song. Great drumming.

Posted 11 years ago by Sasha2001 [ Reply ]

Voice like a chainsaw...
Hit the PSD button again...

Posted 11 years ago by vanmas [ Reply ]

PLEASE? Do we have to listen to the same ole song? over and over? So many better tunes by the Pumpkins .

Posted 11 years ago by daniel_rusk [ Reply ]

Bill!!!! Take a break from the great songs!!! I have to go to the bathroom!!!

Posted 11 years ago by MassivRuss [ Reply ]

Take one part Tubular Bells,

Add a rasping nasal vocal,

Decent lyrics,

A kick-ass drummer,

Stir well and there you have it.

Posted 11 years ago by TerryS [ Reply ]

"...what Radiohead would do if they had any actual songwriting skill..."

<SNIP>

LOL !!! What a dumbass... I mean, to each his own, but, what a dumbass !!!

Wait, this isn't a Radiohead song... why are we talking about Radiohead?

Posted 11 years ago by Biscobret [ Reply ]

sirdroseph wrote:

If Billy Corgan were deemed to be the voice of my generation; I would switch generations or something.

Totally take this back, Billy you can be the voice of my generation no question. Just don't sing the words.

Posted 11 years ago by sirdroseph [ Reply ]

Not for me. I was very happy when SP reunited but their Act 2 just doesn't grab me. Shame.

Posted 11 years ago by kcar [ Reply ]

MassivRuss wrote:

This song keeps getting better each time I hear it.

I totally agree.

Posted 11 years ago by eroz [ Reply ]

Blah blah blah, Radiohead is to complicated for me, blah blah, navel-gaving, blah blah whining noises ......

How about you just stick to the stuff you like. Nobody cares that you don't like Radiohead when they listen to the Pumpkins.

Posted 11 years ago by snap_dragon [ Reply ]

This song keeps getting better each time I hear it.

That opening hook is very Radioheady.

But, where RH would just descend into mindless musical navelgazing, Corgan actually constructs a song from that hook. So, this is what Radiohead would do if they had any actual songwriting skill and if Thom Yorke made me want to sing along instead of scratch my 'roids.

Posted 11 years ago by MassivRuss [ Reply ]

Great.

Posted 11 years ago by nightdrive [ Reply ]

Poor.

Posted 11 years ago by Thin_Air [ Reply ]

I hate the whole, " Fire the band and start over thing," but man he got hisself a KICKASS drummer this time around, ain't he?

Posted 11 years ago by jhorton [ Reply ]

Great tune!

Now, if Brother Billy could stop singing like a harpooned fur seal, this new iteration of the band would really have something that appeals broadly across the generations. Of course, then they'd have to call themselves The Superb Squash or The Dandy Zucchinis. Probably wouldn't fly.

Posted 11 years ago by crogers [ Reply ]

gandalfbmg wrote:

... Or because my brain likes analogies, what if they both were; they wwere the Lennon/McCartney of their generation? And from that I thought maybe you could round out the Beatles analogy with Dave Grohl as George and Courtney Love as Ringo. We're I saavy enough to do so, I would photoshop the four of them into an Abbey Road album cover and write a big long blog post laying out the reasons why I think this works pretty well on all four people's account (if you're in to analogies like that, which I am) ;)

Me thinks somebody has had too much to think.

Otherwise, I think this tune is just amazing - wonderful - sublime.

Posted 11 years ago by MinMan [ Reply ]

gandalfbmg wrote:

This post got me thinking about an idea that's rattled around the back of my brain for a while... People always tried to pin the title 'voice of his generation' on Kurt Cobain. But I think maybe for my money, this is a title better suited to Billy Corgan (for reasons I won't go in to deeply). But then I thought, maybe they BOTH were... Or because my brain likes analogies, what if they both were; they wwere the Lennon/McCartney of their generation? And from that I thought maybe you could round out the Beatles analogy with Dave Grohl as George and Courtney Love as Ringo. We're I saavy enough to do so, I would photoshop the four of them into an Abbey Road album cover and write a big long blog post laying out the reasons why I think this works pretty well on all four people's account (if you're in to analogies like that, which I am) ;)

If Billy Corgan were deemed to be the voice of my generation; I would switch generations or something.

Posted 11 years ago by sirdroseph [ Reply ]

rdo wrote:

Ugh

I think this is fantastic. This isn't reaching back its moving forward.

Posted 11 years ago by coyotexxx2 [ Reply ]

Everybody in my church thinks this song kicks ass...

Posted 11 years ago by Lazarus [ Reply ]

Bumped up to 9. Likin' it better each time. A Corgan Gem.

Posted 11 years ago by MassivRuss [ Reply ]

rdo wrote:

A band is truly of its generation. You cannot just "compose" great rock music. It's organic. It emerges. Unconscious. It cannot be thought-out in advance. It's spontaneous. It's the best. It's not this.

This post got me thinking about an idea that's rattled around the back of my brain for a while... People always tried to pin the title 'voice of his generation' on Kurt Cobain. But I think maybe for my money, this is a title better suited to Billy Corgan (for reasons I won't go in to deeply). But then I thought, maybe they BOTH were... Or because my brain likes analogies, what if they both were; they wwere the Lennon/McCartney of their generation? And from that I thought maybe you could round out the Beatles analogy with Dave Grohl as George and Courtney Love as Ringo. We're I saavy enough to do so, I would photoshop the four of them into an Abbey Road album cover and write a big long blog post laying out the reasons why I think this works pretty well on all four people's account (if you're in to analogies like that, which I am) ;)

Posted 11 years ago by gandalfbmg [ Reply ]

7 >> 8

Slowly growing on me, ye olde pumpkinheade.

JCJIDWBC(+MadM)4LYFE, though! ;)

Posted 11 years ago by stahlwerk [ Reply ]

Ugh

Posted 11 years ago by rdo [ Reply ]

Truly "Godlike".

Posted 11 years ago by Ptijoc [ Reply ]

Love it!

Posted 11 years ago by Callie_ [ Reply ]

Kilroy wrote:

You can "compose" a great post on the message board. It is not organic. It does not emerge. Consciousness. A message should be thought-out in advance. It should not be spontaneous. It should make sense. It is not this.

The point I was trying to make, rather artlessly I'll grant you, was that this song is, unlike the great SP music of old, rather contrived. Kinda like your comment...

Posted 11 years ago by rdo [ Reply ]

rdo wrote:

A band is truly of its generation. You cannot just "compose" great rock music. It's organic. It emerges. Unconscious. It cannot be thought-out in advance. It's spontaneous. It's the best. It's not this.

You can "compose" a great post on the message board. It is not organic. It does not emerge. Consciousness. A message should be thought-out in advance. It should not be spontaneous. It should make sense. It is not this.

Posted 11 years ago by Ipse_Dixit [ Reply ]

I kinda like this one, but it does sound a bit like Pink Floyd after Gilmour and Wright left the band.

Posted 11 years ago by jhorton [ Reply ]

excellent... love this song...

Posted 11 years ago by Lazarus [ Reply ]

A band is truly of its generation. You cannot just "compose" great rock music. It's organic. It emerges. Unconscious. It cannot be thought-out in advance. It's spontaneous. It's the best. It's not this.

Posted 11 years ago by rdo [ Reply ]

Bill loves him some Pumpkins!

Posted 11 years ago by coachc [ Reply ]

One of the better Corgan tunes...just normally not into his crooning. This isn't bad. Music is very nice.

Posted 11 years ago by ziakut [ Reply ]

Never been a fan, but this album is really great.

Posted 11 years ago by rtwingo [ Reply ]

the beginning of the song reminds me of Pink Floyd...

Posted 11 years ago by Dinges,_the_Dude [ Reply ]

yummy

Posted 11 years ago by DearDM [ Reply ]

With their discordant, screechy sound, mutant vocals, and schizoid lyrics, the Smashing Pumpkins were able to sooth my wounded and restless soul throughout the 90s. This is just meh.

Posted 11 years ago by rdo [ Reply ]

I like it. Billy's not anywhere near as whiny as he used to be. This is good!

Posted 11 years ago by Droidac [ Reply ]

moody - love it

Posted 11 years ago by jocelynsart [ Reply ]

boring crap

Posted 11 years ago by t00lur [ Reply ]

mauguima wrote:

I LOLed. And Lazarus raises from the dead... bringing with him his greened cheerfull comments.

Thank you! We be dancing...

hope you are having a marvelous day right this minute... love this song...

Posted 11 years ago by Lazarus [ Reply ]

Lazarus wrote:

marvelous song...

I LOLed. And Lazarus raises from the dead... bringing with him his greened cheerfull comments.

Posted 11 years ago by mauguima [ Reply ]

I concur, with much verve! I just LOVE that stlealthy Pink Floydian beginning! and dig how it wastes little time getting down to some serious rocking!

Nadita wrote:

Smashing Pumpkins - love it forever and a day. they have been around for so long. Lived through so much shit and always remaind true to themselfes. Even when sucess came in. They deserve nothing less than doing great. And the Music still moves me in many different ways. Just great.

Posted 11 years ago by coloradojohn [ Reply ]

marvelous song...

Posted 11 years ago by Lazarus [ Reply ]

Among their best work, IMHO

Posted 11 years ago by coding_to_music [ Reply ]

Biscobret wrote:

I couldn't disagree more — they are not a "they", they are a "him", Billy Corgan, and while that's OK, it's dishonest to sell music as SP, when that WAS truly a band - and it's music was more than a sum of its parts. Billy couldn't sell out clubs - much less arenas - as Billy Corgan, and he soon realized that he would only realize "success" (read, $$$) as SP.

That said, it's a decent tune for sure. But it's as much SP as The Spaghetti Incident is G'n'R.

Wow, that is a highly doubtful statement. Seriously.

Posted 11 years ago by rdo [ Reply ]

Nadita wrote:

Smashing Pumpkins - love it forever and a day. they have been around for so long. Lived through so much shit and always remaind true to themselfes. Even when sucess came in. They deserve nothing less than doing great. And the Music still moves me in many different ways. Just great.

I couldn't disagree more — they are not a "they", they are a "him", Billy Corgan, and while that's OK, it's dishonest to sell music as SP, when that WAS truly a band - and it's music was more than a sum of its parts. Billy couldn't sell out clubs - much less arenas - as Billy Corgan, and he soon realized that he would only realize "success" (read, $$$) as SP.

That said, it's a decent tune for sure. But it's as much SP as The Spaghetti Incident is G'n'R.

Posted 11 years ago by Biscobret [ Reply ]

Fully down with this today. 9

Posted 12 years ago by d-don [ Reply ]

We should add "Pale Horse" from this album to the RP rotation.

Posted 12 years ago by dewinter [ Reply ]

Smashing Pumpkins - love it forever and a day. they have been around for so long. Lived through so much shit and always remaind true to themselfes. Even when sucess came in. They deserve nothing less than doing great. And the Music still moves me in many different ways. Just great.

Posted 12 years ago by Nadita [ Reply ]

vanmas wrote:

Like a chainsaw in your ears... 1

..a very tiny chainsaw..but i think i agree..sliding this down to a 6..

Posted 12 years ago by cShaggy [ Reply ]

i never ever liked these guys

Posted 12 years ago by nightmann [ Reply ]

i don't know...i like this more each time i hear it.

Posted 12 years ago by lily34 [ Reply ]

Like a chainsaw in your ears... 1

Posted 12 years ago by vanmas [ Reply ]

mrdak wrote:

I hate this band......... but they finally found a bass player.

You know judging by seeing the new lineup live a couple years ago, and this album... they did trade up on bass but down on drums...

Posted 12 years ago by gandalfbmg [ Reply ]

TJS wrote:

I had a change of heart. The drums spoke to me today. 5>6.

It's still not Jimmy Chamberlain...

Posted 12 years ago by gandalfbmg [ Reply ]

glad you are back on air and safe...from yarra junction,a small country town in australia

Posted 12 years ago by peter_thurlow [ Reply ]

grows on you nicely

Posted 12 years ago by arserocket [ Reply ]

TJS wrote:

6>5

I had a change of heart. The drums spoke to me today. 5>6.

Posted 12 years ago by TJS [ Reply ]

idiot_wind wrote:

Wow. These guys still suck.

Thud and drone approach to rock n roll...following the PAAD principal. Every song must reference Pain, Angst, Anger, or Despair.

No soul, no musicianship, just thud and drone.

Boring back in early mid 1990s and boring in 2012. I'm afraid r n r is dead.

What's the alternative - the SAAD principle? Every song must reference Sex, Alcohol, Ass-kicking, or Dope? Face it, Rock n' Roll is not exactly about high poetry, mate.