Peter Gabriel — Shaking The Tree (w/ Youssou N'Dour)
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Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Waiting your time, dreaming of a better life
Waiting your time, you're more than just a wife
You don't want to do what your mother has done
She has done
This is your life, this new life has begun
It's your day - a woman's day
It's your day - a woman's day
Turning the tide, you are on the incoming wave
Turning the tide, you know you are nobody's slave
[ 1989 version - Find your Brothers and sisters ]
[ 1990 version - Find your sisters and brothers ]
Who can hear all the truth in what you say
They can support you when you're on your way
It's your day - a woman's day
It's your day - a woman's day
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
[ extra lyrics from 1989 12" remix ]
There's nothing to gain when there's nothing to be lost
There's nothing to gain if you stay behind and count the cost
Make the decision that you can be who you can be
You can be
Tasting the fruit come to the Liberty Tree
It's your day - a woman's day
It's your day - a woman's day
[ end of extra lyrics from 12" remix ]
Changing your ways, changing those surrounding you
Changing your ways, more than any man can do
Open your heart, show him the anger and pain, so you heal
Maybe he's looking for his womanly side, let him feel
You had to be so strong
And you do nothing wrong
Nothing wrong at all
We're gonna to break it down
We have to shake it down
Shake it all around
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
...
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Waiting your time, dreaming of a better life
Waiting your time, you're more than just a wife
You don't want to do what your mother has done
She has done
This is your life, this new life has begun
It's your day - a woman's day
It's your day - a woman's day
Turning the tide, you are on the incoming wave
Turning the tide, you know you are nobody's slave
[ 1989 version - Find your Brothers and sisters ]
[ 1990 version - Find your sisters and brothers ]
Who can hear all the truth in what you say
They can support you when you're on your way
It's your day - a woman's day
It's your day - a woman's day
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
[ extra lyrics from 1989 12" remix ]
There's nothing to gain when there's nothing to be lost
There's nothing to gain if you stay behind and count the cost
Make the decision that you can be who you can be
You can be
Tasting the fruit come to the Liberty Tree
It's your day - a woman's day
It's your day - a woman's day
[ end of extra lyrics from 12" remix ]
Changing your ways, changing those surrounding you
Changing your ways, more than any man can do
Open your heart, show him the anger and pain, so you heal
Maybe he's looking for his womanly side, let him feel
You had to be so strong
And you do nothing wrong
Nothing wrong at all
We're gonna to break it down
We have to shake it down
Shake it all around
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
Souma Yergon, Sou Nou Yergon, We are shakin' the tree
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Genius. He.
Peter Gabriel is an influential musician who likes to keep it fresh.
On_The_Beach wrote:
3.1415926535897932384626433832795
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Well that reply takes the pie
3.1415926535897932384626433832795
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Well that reply takes the pie
Hippostar wrote:
Wow. What part do you play in the band then?
Wow, it's what Elbow wants to sound like.
Wow. What part do you play in the band then?
SmackDaddy wrote:
3.1415926535897932384626433832795
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Enough. How many times a day do we need to hear PG?
3.1415926535897932384626433832795
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Wow, it's what Elbow wants to sound like.
I want to give this version a 10, and the live version an 11. Alas.
easmann wrote:
As many. As. Are. NEEDED!
; P
Not many enough, I'm afraid. But if it's too much for you, I can give you a free advise; tune in to another channel for a while.
As many. As. Are. NEEDED!
; P
Not many enough, I'm afraid. But if it's too much for you, I can give you a free advise; tune in to another channel for a while.
Cynaera wrote:
Following up on this comment because Cynaera posted about dancing to Shaking the Tree. I learned PG's Shaking the Tree in modern dance class around 1990, so I wondered who Cynaera might be (my modern dance teacher?) and looked them up. Sadly, I found this obit of this bright ray of sunshine who has left this world: https://elkodaily.com/lifestyl...
Hiya, michaelgmitchell - the post was aimed at romeotuma, a much-misaligned, misunderstood wonder of humanity. And no, I don't think he actually lives in a hotel, although if he does, I admire the fact that he has such access to music in Vegas, the land of lost wages and no clocks. He's just a cool dude I've never met.
I used to create dance routines to this song because the rhythm, drums, vocals - the whole tone of the song - motivated me. The song still makes me want to dance, but I'm older, so can't put my foot up behind my neck anymore, and I live in a house where if I whip around too fast, I crack my elbow on a doorjamb or trip over a chair or a cat. Not optimum for creativity. I keep trying - and "Shaking the Tree" helps. Oh - and I once had a weekly article for the local newspaper, and of course, I called it "Shaking the Tree." People seemed to like it... Maybe one day I'll post an already-published article here (the Elko Independent owns the rights to all my published articles, so I might be promising more than I can deliver.) My personal favorite is the one I wrote about my cats. Well, geez - I love cats.
Guh - shutting up now.
Hiya, michaelgmitchell - the post was aimed at romeotuma, a much-misaligned, misunderstood wonder of humanity. And no, I don't think he actually lives in a hotel, although if he does, I admire the fact that he has such access to music in Vegas, the land of lost wages and no clocks. He's just a cool dude I've never met.I used to create dance routines to this song because the rhythm, drums, vocals - the whole tone of the song - motivated me. The song still makes me want to dance, but I'm older, so can't put my foot up behind my neck anymore, and I live in a house where if I whip around too fast, I crack my elbow on a doorjamb or trip over a chair or a cat. Not optimum for creativity. I keep trying - and "Shaking the Tree" helps. Oh - and I once had a weekly article for the local newspaper, and of course, I called it "Shaking the Tree." People seemed to like it... Maybe one day I'll post an already-published article here (the Elko Independent owns the rights to all my published articles, so I might be promising more than I can deliver.) My personal favorite is the one I wrote about my cats. Well, geez - I love cats.
Guh - shutting up now.
Fantastic tune but the live version is sooo much better.
Sometimes I'd just like to hear him singing the cheerful songs with no deep meaning.
There’s a companion track on Youssou N’Dour’s album ’The Lion’,
Same song with a few slight modification. Youssou’ s version came out in 1989, PG’s version in 1990.
Same song with a few slight modification. Youssou’ s version came out in 1989, PG’s version in 1990.
SmackDaddy wrote:
Funny, was thinking the same thing about comments like this.
Enough. How many times a day do we need to hear PG?
Funny, was thinking the same thing about comments like this.
Nearly always the case, but still have to note the great segue from Death Cab for Cutie's To the Ground to this.
RedGuitar wrote:
Is that Norse for "freakin' Friday"?
Close enough! It's where we get the English word for Friday. https://bit.ly/37OfyS5
So on a Friday, when I hear them sing "it's your day, woman's day" it makes me think of a certain story where Odin doesn't want to do something on a Friday, claiming "it's a woman's day". But enough of that!
Is that Norse for "freakin' Friday"?
Close enough! It's where we get the English word for Friday. https://bit.ly/37OfyS5
So on a Friday, when I hear them sing "it's your day, woman's day" it makes me think of a certain story where Odin doesn't want to do something on a Friday, claiming "it's a woman's day". But enough of that!
This. Is. A. Good. Song!
scrubbrush wrote:
Congratulations. I thought Stingray was the most obnoxious person on the RP site. I guess I was wrong
They won't listen to me, yet, scrubbrush. My best job ever was stay at home dad. Press the weights, cook the food, clean the house. Wait for the wifey (and her girlfriends) to come over. ;)
Congratulations. I thought Stingray was the most obnoxious person on the RP site. I guess I was wrong
They won't listen to me, yet, scrubbrush. My best job ever was stay at home dad. Press the weights, cook the food, clean the house. Wait for the wifey (and her girlfriends) to come over. ;)
cecile.kellermayr wrote:
His Genesis stuff was a little bit out there.
This stuff is more accessible and dare I say more pleasant.
Too pathetic! Even if this is dedicated to women 
I appreciate the PSD button when Peter Gabriel howls again and again here on Radio Paradise.
He sounds so... weepy 
I preferred the music he did with Genesis.
I appreciate the PSD button when Peter Gabriel howls again and again here on Radio Paradise. He sounds so... weepy I preferred the music he did with Genesis.His Genesis stuff was a little bit out there.
This stuff is more accessible and dare I say more pleasant.
Too pathetic! Even if this is dedicated to women I appreciate the PSD button when Peter Gabriel howls again and again here on Radio Paradise. He sounds so... weepy I preferred the music he did with Genesis.
I appreciate the PSD button when Peter Gabriel howls again and again here on Radio Paradise. He sounds so... weepy I preferred the music he did with Genesis.What another great voice!
rating 7 SmackDaddy wrote:
As many. As. Are. NEEDED!
; P
Enough. How many times a day do we need to hear PG?
As many. As. Are. NEEDED!
; P
Enough. How many times a day do we need to hear PG?
I wish I could spend one hour with him and hear in details how he recorded and mixed this song.
One of the very few Gabriel tunes that I'm not tired of hearing.
Read Gabriel's biography, He used so many tracks laid down from his past projects but kept it fresh. I'm so impressed with him.
One later album took years to put out as he'd use bits and pieces it took a lot of soothing to get credits done right. He had built an amazing sound studio near Bath England that had housing, invite all sorts of groups to record and then like a drummer, or guitarist, and lay some tracks. I can't imagine the archive he has managed to build. Then figure out the royalties.
One later album took years to put out as he'd use bits and pieces it took a lot of soothing to get credits done right. He had built an amazing sound studio near Bath England that had housing, invite all sorts of groups to record and then like a drummer, or guitarist, and lay some tracks. I can't imagine the archive he has managed to build. Then figure out the royalties.
Anyone else hear a "mash-up" with Alanis Morrisette's See Right Through You?
:-)
:-)
Proclivities wrote:
I recently saw Fogerty's 1969 tour which focused heavily on the 3 albums that CCR released in 1969. I was surprised that half of their cannon was released between January 5th and November 2nd 1969. 2 of the other 3 albums that they release were in 68 and 70.
During the show John talked a lot about the touring, the music, and those times. As he talked, he only referred to the band as Creedence once. All of the other times that he mentioned them, he referred to them as "my band".
I recently saw Fogerty's 1969 tour which focused heavily on the 3 albums that CCR released in 1969. I was surprised that half of their cannon was released between January 5th and November 2nd 1969. 2 of the other 3 albums that they release were in 68 and 70.
During the show John talked a lot about the touring, the music, and those times. As he talked, he only referred to the band as Creedence once. All of the other times that he mentioned them, he referred to them as "my band".
One of those very rare tunes where the live version is 1000 times better than the studio version. Paula Cole is phenomenal on this song from Secret World Live....
The Archangel Gabriel doth spake
Lazarus wrote:
Be well.
Everybody in my mushrooming multitude of homeless camps be dancing buck ass naked all over the mountains and beaches and forests and fields from sea to shining sea like bowlegged gypsy muleskinners... we love this song... love sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll... time flies when we're having fun...
Be well.
Addictive little song. I quite like it.
DeemerDave wrote:
Unfortunately for John Fogerty, he had to go to court to prove that.
Funny how the opening is the same as "Digging In the Dirt". I guess it's technically not stealing if your reusing your own material.
Unfortunately for John Fogerty, he had to go to court to prove that.
One of the few "just average" Gabriel songs.
Funny how the opening is the same as "Digging In the Dirt". I guess it's technically not stealing if your reusing your own material.
chills...an excellent song.
Everybody in my mushrooming multitude of homeless camps be dancing buck ass naked all over the mountains and beaches and forests and fields from sea to shining sea like bowlegged gypsy muleskinners... we love this song... love sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll... time flies when we're having fun...
Aud wrote:
I always heard it as "we are shakin", but now, after reading your post - all I hear is "be my chicken"!!
The power of suggestion is alive and well!
Thanks, I needed a little comic relief today!
Love this tune. I'd be dancing buck-ass nekkid, but they would fire me on the spot!
Changing the topics...
When they're are singing "we are shaking ( the tree). "
It always sounded it me that they were saying "be my chicken."
When they're are singing "we are shaking ( the tree). "
It always sounded it me that they were saying "be my chicken."
I always heard it as "we are shakin", but now, after reading your post - all I hear is "be my chicken"!!
The power of suggestion is alive and well!
Thanks, I needed a little comic relief today!
Love this tune. I'd be dancing buck-ass nekkid, but they would fire me on the spot!
Changing the topics...
When they're are singing "we are shaking ( the tree). "
It always sounded it me that they were saying "be my chicken."
When they're are singing "we are shaking ( the tree). "
It always sounded it me that they were saying "be my chicken."
8 -> 9
Shaking my tree
Shaking my tree
afrixluvguy wrote:
Keep rambling. I saw the show back in the day. Completely surreal, remains one of the sweetest moments of my life, sharing it with the one I love.
Gabriel at his highest, So and Us, and that delicious Secret World Tour.
N'dour undeniably, Katche irrefutably, shaking the very foundations... but I ramble.
N'dour undeniably, Katche irrefutably, shaking the very foundations... but I ramble.
Keep rambling. I saw the show back in the day. Completely surreal, remains one of the sweetest moments of my life, sharing it with the one I love.
Peter Gabriel, sublime talent.
Twice in a day - don't think I don't have your number Peter Gabriel.
Youssou N'Dour's voice is phenomenal.
Gabriel at his highest, So and Us, and that delicious Secret World Tour.
N'dour undeniably, Katche irrefutably, shaking the very foundations... but I ramble.
N'dour undeniably, Katche irrefutably, shaking the very foundations... but I ramble.
I like the initial song...but to me...it's wayyyyy too long.
The afternoon's mix is moving me from work to party mode. Thanks!
Nix wrote:
Very true
The concert version of this song, on "The secret world tour" was one notch more powerful. The vocal of Paula Cole on that song was fantastic.
Very true
Stingray wrote:
I thought you'd left...oh, well...welcome home.
STOP IT - RIDICULOUS!
I thought you'd left...oh, well...welcome home.
STOP IT - RIDICULOUS!
oldfart48 wrote:
Ex con? I was going to guess brain surgeon or Pulitzer Prize winning author...
Other than the MISOGYNIST DRIVEL, THE STATS ARE REAL.....( disabled , homeless 65 year old male, ex con, , cancer survivor, BORN IN THE USA ) and I vote stingray & rdo as most obnoxious...
Ex con? I was going to guess brain surgeon or Pulitzer Prize winning author...
The concert version of this song, on "The secret world tour" was one notch more powerful. The vocal of Paula Cole on that song was fantastic.
RabbitEars wrote:
...wow: somehow I missed out on peter gabriel's mullet phase entirely!..
...wow: somehow I missed out on peter gabriel's mullet phase entirely!..
GT66 wrote:
I hate this wishy washy lets suck up to the feminists drivel. Yeah, women are great, that's why they stand back let the men do the work and then complain that it doesn't meet their standards. Build a society that works sisters and then we'll talk. Til then...
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Seems like you made a pretty good case for putting women in charge. Are you a feminist double agent? As for the song, kinda mediocre for me.Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
scrubbrush wrote:
Congratulations. I thought Stingray was the most obnoxious person on the RP site. I guess I was wrong
Other than the MISOGYNIST DRIVEL, THE STATS ARE REAL.....( disabled , homeless 65 year old male, ex con, , cancer survivor, BORN IN THE USA ) and I vote stingray & rdo as most obnoxious...
Congratulations. I thought Stingray was the most obnoxious person on the RP site. I guess I was wrong
marvelous... love this song...
scrubbrush wrote:
Congratulations. I thought Stingray was the most obnoxious person on the RP site. I guess I was wrong
Majority of moaners...man i think you win that prize ...plus its just a fecking song do you not know where the off button is mate
Congratulations. I thought Stingray was the most obnoxious person on the RP site. I guess I was wrong
Majority of moaners...man i think you win that prize ...plus its just a fecking song do you not know where the off button is mate
GT66 wrote:
Congratulations. I thought Stingray was the most obnoxious person on the RP site. I guess I was wrong
I hate this wishy washy lets suck up to the feminists drivel. Yeah, women are great, that's why they stand back let the men do the work and then complain that it doesn't meet their standards. Build a society that works sisters and then we'll talk. Til then...
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Congratulations. I thought Stingray was the most obnoxious person on the RP site. I guess I was wrong
fredriley wrote:
Majority of killers: male
All perpetrators of industrial-scale massacre and genocide: male
Majority of drivers causing accidents: male
Vast majority of rapists: male
Get a grip on reality. Men should become more 'feminine'. At least we'd not be killing wholesale if that were to happen. IMO testosterone reduction pills should be available over the counter in every pharmacy, and should be obligatory for any man prior to using dangerous machinery.
It's misogynist dickheads like you who feed fuel to reactionary radical feminists.
Bingo! Snap! Yo! Jah! Oui! Yeah! Aye! Hai! Uwa! Yep! Sure!
Majority of killers: male
All perpetrators of industrial-scale massacre and genocide: male
Majority of drivers causing accidents: male
Vast majority of rapists: male
Get a grip on reality. Men should become more 'feminine'. At least we'd not be killing wholesale if that were to happen. IMO testosterone reduction pills should be available over the counter in every pharmacy, and should be obligatory for any man prior to using dangerous machinery.
It's misogynist dickheads like you who feed fuel to reactionary radical feminists.
Bingo! Snap! Yo! Jah! Oui! Yeah! Aye! Hai! Uwa! Yep! Sure!
GwentRabbit wrote:
Not managed to get laid for a while eh?
This is a very appropriate song for today, International Women's Day, but then any day is good to celebrate women's place in humanity.
Not managed to get laid for a while eh?
This is a very appropriate song for today, International Women's Day, but then any day is good to celebrate women's place in humanity.
GT66 wrote:
Not managed to get laid for a while eh?
I hate this wishy washy lets suck up to the feminists drivel. Yeah, women are great, that's why they stand back let the men do the work and then complain that it doesn't meet their standards. Build a society that works sisters and then we'll talk. Til then...
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Not managed to get laid for a while eh?
Love Peter Gabriel - truly an awesome song!
Shaking the Tree & Biko = Gabriel's best ever.
Done lots of great music since then, but these two will live forever.
Done lots of great music since then, but these two will live forever.
rockpommel16 wrote:
....miss you,romeo........hope you´re having a good time right this moment.....
.....
Everybody in my church loves this song... you are welcome here anytime...
....miss you,romeo........hope you´re having a good time right this moment.....
.....Everybody in my church loves this song... you are welcome here anytime...
If you don't singing along, hum along, tap your feet to this - check your pulse!
GT66 wrote:
Majority of killers: male
All perpetrators of industrial-scale massacre and genocide: male
Majority of drivers causing accidents: male
Vast majority of rapists: male
Get a grip on reality. Men should become more 'feminine'. At least we'd not be killing wholesale if that were to happen. IMO testosterone reduction pills should be available over the counter in every pharmacy, and should be obligatory for any man prior to using dangerous machinery.
It's misogynist dickheads like you who feed fuel to reactionary radical feminists.
I hate this wishy washy lets suck up to the feminists drivel. Yeah, women are great, that's why they stand back let the men do the work and then complain that it doesn't meet their standards. Build a society that works sisters and then we'll talk. Til then...
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Majority of killers: male
All perpetrators of industrial-scale massacre and genocide: male
Majority of drivers causing accidents: male
Vast majority of rapists: male
Get a grip on reality. Men should become more 'feminine'. At least we'd not be killing wholesale if that were to happen. IMO testosterone reduction pills should be available over the counter in every pharmacy, and should be obligatory for any man prior to using dangerous machinery.
It's misogynist dickheads like you who feed fuel to reactionary radical feminists.
(former member) wrote:
This song is soooo good it puts a spring in my step this first day of autumn...
....miss you,romeo........hope you´re having a good time right this moment..........
This song is soooo good it puts a spring in my step this first day of autumn...
....miss you,romeo........hope you´re having a good time right this moment.....
..... Giselle62 wrote:
When life becomes better for women over the world through education and birth control, it becomes better for society.
This seems obvious; but even our "First World" society doesn't seem to get this, these days.
Gentle men can stop perpetrating violence on women, children and themselves—-and make sure to call your brothers on it when you observe it around you.
This seems obvious; but even our "First World" society doesn't seem to get this, these days.
Gentle men can stop perpetrating violence on women, children and themselves—-and make sure to call your brothers on it when you observe it around you.
(former member) wrote:
This song is soooo good it puts a spring in my step this first day of autumn...
Okay Bill, you can tell everyone who/where Romeo is now.
This song is soooo good it puts a spring in my step this first day of autumn...
Okay Bill, you can tell everyone who/where Romeo is now.
(former member) wrote:
This song is soooo good it puts a spring in my step this first day of autumn...
O Romeo, Romeo! wherefore art thou Romeo?
This song is soooo good it puts a spring in my step this first day of autumn...
O Romeo, Romeo! wherefore art thou Romeo?
When life becomes better for women over the world through education and birth control, it becomes better for society.
This seems obvious; but even our "First World" society doesn't seem to get this, these days.
Gentle men can stop perpetrating violence on women, children and themselves—-and make sure to call your brothers on it when you observe it around you.
This seems obvious; but even our "First World" society doesn't seem to get this, these days.
Gentle men can stop perpetrating violence on women, children and themselves—-and make sure to call your brothers on it when you observe it around you.
Now Bev and GT....just relax. Breath deep. Take a step back.
Decent song but I must've heard it 10,000 times over the past decade — on mainstream radio! With all the airplay he gets on this station I wonder whether Peter Gabriel own shares in Radio Paradise!
This was 1990. Bloody hell, I'm getting old. Check that ... I AM old.
GT66 wrote:
Nice shaming talk. And of course, a healthy dollop of smug condescension slathered with a lack of actual argument. In case YOU haven't noticed, despite problems along the way, the human condition has been IMPROVING over the course of the centuries thanks in large part to the work MEN have done. It is truly the mark of a spoilt ignormaus that is unable to look around and realize that the current state of human existence is VASTLY better than it has EVER been despite the problems that remain. ANd, despite what so many women have to say, their lot has vastly improved as well just by the course of men doing what they do best: inventing and creating solutions to problems of human nature and need.
Its easy to say that, historically, humans as a species have a vastly improved quality of life than their ancestors of only 2 generations ago. Just look at infant mortality, life expectancy, population growth, etc. But this doesn't counter the fact that, going forward, are species will have to adapt to unsustainable losses in drinking water, arable land, carbon-based energy, and of course climate change. The interesting and unknowable question raised by this song is, how would we fair as a matriarchal species? Some indigenous societies have been matriarchal and survived quite well, which is what I think Mr. Gabriel is referencing in his song.
Nice shaming talk. And of course, a healthy dollop of smug condescension slathered with a lack of actual argument. In case YOU haven't noticed, despite problems along the way, the human condition has been IMPROVING over the course of the centuries thanks in large part to the work MEN have done. It is truly the mark of a spoilt ignormaus that is unable to look around and realize that the current state of human existence is VASTLY better than it has EVER been despite the problems that remain. ANd, despite what so many women have to say, their lot has vastly improved as well just by the course of men doing what they do best: inventing and creating solutions to problems of human nature and need.
Its easy to say that, historically, humans as a species have a vastly improved quality of life than their ancestors of only 2 generations ago. Just look at infant mortality, life expectancy, population growth, etc. But this doesn't counter the fact that, going forward, are species will have to adapt to unsustainable losses in drinking water, arable land, carbon-based energy, and of course climate change. The interesting and unknowable question raised by this song is, how would we fair as a matriarchal species? Some indigenous societies have been matriarchal and survived quite well, which is what I think Mr. Gabriel is referencing in his song.
GT66 wrote:
What's with the raging misogyny? What's so wrong with women bettering their lives? It doesn't have to be at your expense, after all.
We are all dreaming of a better life. Your very sad little diatribe of (highly questionable) "stats" above only goes to show that men — and of course all of us — could do better, no?
I hate this wishy washy lets suck up to the feminists drivel. Yeah, women are great, that's why they stand back let the men do the work and then complain that it doesn't meet their standards. Build a society that works sisters and then we'll talk. Til then...
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
What's with the raging misogyny? What's so wrong with women bettering their lives? It doesn't have to be at your expense, after all.
We are all dreaming of a better life. Your very sad little diatribe of (highly questionable) "stats" above only goes to show that men — and of course all of us — could do better, no?
today is a good day!! Bruce_AK wrote:
Thanks for the nice link, but the video painfully points out the fact that this is already 23 years old.
The song is still awesome, but maaan I'm getting old... :-(
Good video for this, can't miss what it is about...
https://youtu.be/z06mQT_vkkw
https://youtu.be/z06mQT_vkkw
Thanks for the nice link, but the video painfully points out the fact that this is already 23 years old.
The song is still awesome, but maaan I'm getting old... :-(
jkhandy wrote:
Bad divorce? Wow. Get some help dude. And by the way, in case you haven't noticed, this society we men have built isn't working. Except for the elite that is. If we actually got out of the way, dropped our huge egos, and let the female energy do what it does best, like create, heal and love, then we would get a society that worked. It's no wonder your stats (if true) are where they are at. It's what we men have created for ourselves.
Nice shaming talk. And of course, a healthy dollop of smug condescension slathered with a lack of actual argument. In case YOU haven't noticed, despite problems along the way, the human condition has been IMPROVING over the course of the centuries thanks in large part to the work MEN have done. It is truly the mark of a spoilt ignormaus that is unable to look around and realize that the current state of human existence is VASTLY better than it has EVER been despite the problems that remain. ANd, despite what so many women have to say, their lot has vastly improved as well just by the course of men doing what they do best: inventing and creating solutions to problems of human nature and need.
Bad divorce? Wow. Get some help dude. And by the way, in case you haven't noticed, this society we men have built isn't working. Except for the elite that is. If we actually got out of the way, dropped our huge egos, and let the female energy do what it does best, like create, heal and love, then we would get a society that worked. It's no wonder your stats (if true) are where they are at. It's what we men have created for ourselves.
Nice shaming talk. And of course, a healthy dollop of smug condescension slathered with a lack of actual argument. In case YOU haven't noticed, despite problems along the way, the human condition has been IMPROVING over the course of the centuries thanks in large part to the work MEN have done. It is truly the mark of a spoilt ignormaus that is unable to look around and realize that the current state of human existence is VASTLY better than it has EVER been despite the problems that remain. ANd, despite what so many women have to say, their lot has vastly improved as well just by the course of men doing what they do best: inventing and creating solutions to problems of human nature and need.
LizK wrote:
Oh thank you, thank you. My usually 99 percentile acuity for the English language was suddenly degrading to a snarl -"I want his navel on my (pink) pike! You said it good jkhandy.Drivel. 99th percentile in English and you still can't communicate with "ordinary" people? Laughable. Or do you do that just to make yourself feel superior? I like the threat too... Real caring nurturer of you. LOL.
Oh thank you, thank you. My usually 99 percentile acuity for the English language was suddenly degrading to a snarl -"I want his navel on my (pink) pike! You said it good jkhandy.
Good video for this, can't miss what it is about...
https://youtu.be/z06mQT_vkkw
https://youtu.be/z06mQT_vkkw
GT66 wrote:
Bad divorce? Wow. Get some help dude. And by the way, in case you haven't noticed, this society we men have built isn't working. Except for the elite that is. If we actually got out of the way, dropped our huge egos, and let the female energy do what it does best, like create, heal and love, then we would get a society that worked. It's no wonder your stats (if true) are where they are at. It's what we men have created for ourselves.
Oh thank you, thank you. My usually 99 percentile acuity for the English language was suddenly degrading to a snarl -"I want his navel on my (pink) pike! You said it good jkhandy.
I hate this wishy washy lets suck up to the feminists drivel. Yeah, women are great, that's why they stand back let the men do the work and then complain that it doesn't meet their standards. Build a society that works sisters and then we'll talk. Til then..
jkhandy wrote:Bad divorce? Wow. Get some help dude. And by the way, in case you haven't noticed, this society we men have built isn't working. Except for the elite that is. If we actually got out of the way, dropped our huge egos, and let the female energy do what it does best, like create, heal and love, then we would get a society that worked. It's no wonder your stats (if true) are where they are at. It's what we men have created for ourselves.
Oh thank you, thank you. My usually 99 percentile acuity for the English language was suddenly degrading to a snarl -"I want his navel on my (pink) pike! You said it good jkhandy.
Now that's more like it! 
Awesome tune.
Awesome tune.Ah some nice soul-soothing happy music to rub into the wound after the Bruins loss tonight.
Thanks RP!
Thanks RP!
GT66 wrote:
...this song was specifically written in a west african context circa 1990; the social roles of women were far less liberated there than contemporary american mores, ergo the lyrics about breaking down the barriers...
...personally, i think gender is somewhat ancillary to the message of this song, that of liberty and self-actualisation from a repressive status quo, which applies to marginalised humanity the world over...
I hate this wishy washy lets suck up to the feminists drivel. Yeah, women are great, that's why they stand back let the men do the work and then complain that it doesn't meet their standards. Build a society that works sisters and then we'll talk. Til then...
...this song was specifically written in a west african context circa 1990; the social roles of women were far less liberated there than contemporary american mores, ergo the lyrics about breaking down the barriers...
...personally, i think gender is somewhat ancillary to the message of this song, that of liberty and self-actualisation from a repressive status quo, which applies to marginalised humanity the world over...
BKardon wrote:
I don't like everything Gabriel has done, but this is enjoyable. Would like to hear "I Don't Remember" on here sometime.
Peter gets points for positivity and motivation....
kcar wrote:
ROFL. Sure hope they find that bathroom.
I can understand people mis-hearing Jimi's lyrics from "Purple Haze", but when you're listening to a song called "Bad Moon Rising", you should be able to follow that part of the lyrics.
I suppose. That takes all the fun out of it, of course.
ROFL. Sure hope they find that bathroom.
I can understand people mis-hearing Jimi's lyrics from "Purple Haze", but when you're listening to a song called "Bad Moon Rising", you should be able to follow that part of the lyrics.
I suppose. That takes all the fun out of it, of course.
I do like Peter Gabriel... But he's a little bit to often on RP...
Same goes for Mark Knopfler... I think Bill loves it... I forgive him.
Same goes for Mark Knopfler... I think Bill loves it... I forgive him.
romeotuma wrote:
WTH? Romeo, you're crossing the line here. Stick to the 'ears' comments.
This song is soooo good my nipples get hard when I hear it... volume is wayyyy up...
WTH? Romeo, you're crossing the line here. Stick to the 'ears' comments.
romeotuma wrote:
This song is soooo good my nipples get hard when I hear it... volume is wayyyy up...
This song is soooo good my nipples get hard when I hear it... volume is wayyyy up...
Dude, Dudette (?) I am beginning to wonder. This is the 2nd or 3rd reference to your nipples. You might start scaring away people. 
Tune is definitely good though.
GT66 wrote:
Bad divorce? Wow. Get some help dude. And by the way, in case you haven't noticed, this society we men have built isn't working. Except for the elite that is. If we actually got out of the way, dropped our huge egos, and let the female energy do what it does best, like create, heal and love, then we would get a society that worked. It's no wonder your stats (if true) are where they are at. It's what we men have created for ourselves.
I hate this wishy washy lets suck up to the feminists drivel. Yeah, women are great, that's why they stand back let the men do the work and then complain that it doesn't meet their standards. Build a society that works sisters and then we'll talk. Til then...
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Bad divorce? Wow. Get some help dude. And by the way, in case you haven't noticed, this society we men have built isn't working. Except for the elite that is. If we actually got out of the way, dropped our huge egos, and let the female energy do what it does best, like create, heal and love, then we would get a society that worked. It's no wonder your stats (if true) are where they are at. It's what we men have created for ourselves.
I hate this wishy washy lets suck up to the feminists drivel. Yeah, women are great, that's why they stand back let the men do the work and then complain that it doesn't meet their standards. Build a society that works sisters and then we'll talk. Til then...
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
Majority of homeless: male
Majority of suicides: male
Majority of work place deaths: male
Majority suffering from mental illness or drug addiction: male
Majority victims of violence (yes, look it up): male.
Majority of incarcerated: male.
My favorite version of this tune!
Sasha2001 wrote:
I think I can see your point if view on this, but don't you think there's some inherent value in men who model ideal behavior to other men? If Gabriel intended to speak FOR women then yes, it would be somewhat presumptuous to say the least. But I think the song is more of a celebration of femininity in the general sense.
Yep, I second that. I know he uses "day" to mean 'time' in the general sense, as in 'your day has come', but I reckon this could be a good song for International Women's Day on March 8th.
I think I can see your point if view on this, but don't you think there's some inherent value in men who model ideal behavior to other men? If Gabriel intended to speak FOR women then yes, it would be somewhat presumptuous to say the least. But I think the song is more of a celebration of femininity in the general sense.
Yep, I second that. I know he uses "day" to mean 'time' in the general sense, as in 'your day has come', but I reckon this could be a good song for International Women's Day on March 8th.
Aweeeeeesommmeeenessssssss, all day long-like. Dancing in my hotel room (nod to Romeotuma).
lmic wrote:
I think I can see your point if view on this, but don't you think there's some inherent value in men who model ideal behavior to other men? If Gabriel intended to speak FOR women then yes, it would be somewhat presumptuous to say the least. But I think the song is more of a celebration of femininity in the general sense.
I find it easy to get peeved when men speak for women... However, PG is so sensitive and tuned-in, I greatly appreciate this effort. Plus the music kicks a**.... 10
I think I can see your point if view on this, but don't you think there's some inherent value in men who model ideal behavior to other men? If Gabriel intended to speak FOR women then yes, it would be somewhat presumptuous to say the least. But I think the song is more of a celebration of femininity in the general sense.
Not my favorite Peter Gabriel. Not by a long shot.
t00lur wrote:
that's nice...
i hate hate hate that voice
that's nice...
I find it easy to get peeved when men speak for women... However, PG is so sensitive and tuned-in, I greatly appreciate this effort. Plus the music kicks a**.... 10
i hate hate hate that voice
Groovin'
this song ALWAYS makes me smile... 
I only wish I don't tune in when ANY Peter Gabriel is on....somehow, within my listens, one comes on at least twice. Spare me.
I know I give PG a hard time but it is only because his voice gets on my nerves and most of his music is terminallly booooorrrrriiiiiinnnnngggg!
One of the pillars of all time greatest: Genesis.
I don't like everything Gabriel has done, but this is enjoyable. Would like to hear "I Don't Remember" on here sometime.
Jelani wrote:
not getting that. I"ll have to give another listen.
Yeah, I hear it now, but it's kind of a stretch.
For me anyway.
not getting that. I"ll have to give another listen.
Yeah, I hear it now, but it's kind of a stretch.
For me anyway.
great groove to start this morning. 10 all the way.
albeec13 wrote:
I'm definitely hearing this too.
Me 3
I'm definitely hearing this too.
Me 3
What a great artist! Hopefully Gabriel learned something from him.
Hannio wrote:
A classic example of a mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix singing "'scuse me while I kiss this guy", or John Fogerty singing "there's a bathroom on the right".
ROFL. Sure hope they find that bathroom.
I can understand people mis-hearing Jimi's lyrics from "Purple Haze", but when you're listening to a song called "Bad Moon Rising", you should be able to follow that part of the lyrics.
A classic example of a mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix singing "'scuse me while I kiss this guy", or John Fogerty singing "there's a bathroom on the right".
ROFL. Sure hope they find that bathroom.
I can understand people mis-hearing Jimi's lyrics from "Purple Haze", but when you're listening to a song called "Bad Moon Rising", you should be able to follow that part of the lyrics.
Hannio wrote:
A classic example of a mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix singing "'scuse me while I kiss this guy", or John Fogerty singing "there's a bathroom on the right".
Ohhhh - I get it now! Sorry I was so dense. And thank you for a new and valuable word to add to my (limited) vocabulary. Gotta say - it's difficult to type my thoughts while Les McCann and Eddie Harris are doing "Compared to What?"
I still really love "Shaking the Tree," no matter what's going on in the background. I'm digging through my archives, and one day, I'll post one of my "Shaking the Tree" articles. I miss those times, but life goes on...
A classic example of a mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix singing "'scuse me while I kiss this guy", or John Fogerty singing "there's a bathroom on the right".
Ohhhh - I get it now! Sorry I was so dense. And thank you for a new and valuable word to add to my (limited) vocabulary. Gotta say - it's difficult to type my thoughts while Les McCann and Eddie Harris are doing "Compared to What?"
I still really love "Shaking the Tree," no matter what's going on in the background. I'm digging through my archives, and one day, I'll post one of my "Shaking the Tree" articles. I miss those times, but life goes on...
Cynaera wrote:
Hannio - still not getting it. Well, I could google "mondegreen," but I'm hoping that you'll provide further information for the benefit of those of us who are dorks. *raises hand*
And I still really love this song. I have the CD in my 10-CD changer in my vehicle, and I just keep replaying this song. Hmmm - maybe that's why I don't seem to be getting anything accomplished when I run errands - I'm just DRIVING.
A classic example of a mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix singing "'scuse me while I kiss this guy", or John Fogerty singing "there's a bathroom on the right".
Hannio - still not getting it. Well, I could google "mondegreen," but I'm hoping that you'll provide further information for the benefit of those of us who are dorks. *raises hand*
And I still really love this song. I have the CD in my 10-CD changer in my vehicle, and I just keep replaying this song. Hmmm - maybe that's why I don't seem to be getting anything accomplished when I run errands - I'm just DRIVING.
A classic example of a mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix singing "'scuse me while I kiss this guy", or John Fogerty singing "there's a bathroom on the right".
Hannio wrote:
I'm definitely hearing this too.
We are chickens.
I'm definitely hearing this too.
Hannio wrote:
not getting that. I"ll have to give another listen.
We are chickens.
not getting that. I"ll have to give another listen.