Noir Désir — L' Enfant Roi
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Je ne sais qu'une chose ; tu tiens
Ma joie, ma peine, entre tes mains
Tu es le souffle, le lien,
Mon enfant roi, mon magicien
[Refrain] :
Rien ne m'appartient
Mais au sud je reviens
Noyé dans le coeur des foules
C'est dans ton fleuve que je m'écoule
Quand tous les ponts d'or s'écroulent
C'est de ton air que je me saoule
[Refrain]
Les territoires inconnus
Je les parcours, je les inclus
Mon pays, mon sang, ma rue
Sont dans tes yeux, je les ai vus
Ma joie, ma peine, entre tes mains
Tu es le souffle, le lien,
Mon enfant roi, mon magicien
[Refrain] :
Rien ne m'appartient
Mais au sud je reviens
Noyé dans le coeur des foules
C'est dans ton fleuve que je m'écoule
Quand tous les ponts d'or s'écroulent
C'est de ton air que je me saoule
[Refrain]
Les territoires inconnus
Je les parcours, je les inclus
Mon pays, mon sang, ma rue
Sont dans tes yeux, je les ai vus
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ziggytrix wrote:
Maybe the clone is radiohead...
this song is in French?! (all this time I'd not really listened and thought it was just another poorly enunciated Radiohead clone)
Maybe the clone is radiohead...
Le magnifique! 
Noir Désir does the best cover of Leonard Cohen's "The Partisan" that I've ever heard. Like Cohen's original, it's performed predominantly in English but with a French verse near the end. There are some great YouTube vids of it available.
joejennings wrote:
Yeah, me too. Sad to have to punish the whole band here with a boycott (rating: 1) for one member's deplorable actions but that's the breaks.
CRIPES!! I just Googled Bertrand Cantat. I just dropped may rating to ONE FOR THE MURDERER!
Yeah, me too. Sad to have to punish the whole band here with a boycott (rating: 1) for one member's deplorable actions but that's the breaks.
joejennings wrote:
Agree. I did the same. He killed a defenseless woman.
CRIPES!! I just Googled Bertrand Cantat. I just dropped may rating to ONE FOR THE MURDERER!
Agree. I did the same. He killed a defenseless woman.
CRIPES!! I just Googled Bertrand Cantat. I just dropped may rating to ONE FOR THE MURDERER!
chantal.zucker wrote:
Bertrand Cantat killed Marie Trintignant with some 19 blows, mainly to the head. He was sentenced in Lithuania to 8 years prison. Only 8 because the verdict was murder with indirect intent. Which makes sense when you kill somebody with 20 blows only. He was released on parole 4 years later for good behavior... He could enjoy his life again after 4 years while Marie Trintigant is still dead... those 4 years did not do justice, it's much too short a time.
The music might be good but this circumstances revolt me each time I hear it, I can't support this with a good rating.
There are many other non-mainstream French and French speaking artists worth listening to: Lescop, Dominique A, Christine and The Queens, Fredda, Izia, Les Yeux D'La Tête, Camille, Salomé Leclerc, Terrenoire, Nouvelle Vague, Brigitte, Barbara Carlotti, Françoiz Breut, Mathieu Boogaerts, Liza Manili (no typo)...
Agreed...his history is deplorable...
"On the night of 10 January 2010, Cantat's former wife Krisztina Rády
died by suicide. At the time of her death, Bertrand Cantat was present
in the house. She was discovered by their children the following day.[14]
Shortly before her death, Rády had complained of mental abuse by
Cantat. The physical abuse she complained of on the answering machine is
that he threw some objects at her, but she never mentioned that he was
assaulting her. According to Cantat, Rády's parents had spent a week
with him after the suicide.[15] Magistrates in Bordeaux investigated Cantat in connection with Rady's suicide, but ultimately decided not to press charges"
Bertrand Cantat killed Marie Trintignant with some 19 blows, mainly to the head. He was sentenced in Lithuania to 8 years prison. Only 8 because the verdict was murder with indirect intent. Which makes sense when you kill somebody with 20 blows only. He was released on parole 4 years later for good behavior... He could enjoy his life again after 4 years while Marie Trintigant is still dead... those 4 years did not do justice, it's much too short a time.
The music might be good but this circumstances revolt me each time I hear it, I can't support this with a good rating.
There are many other non-mainstream French and French speaking artists worth listening to: Lescop, Dominique A, Christine and The Queens, Fredda, Izia, Les Yeux D'La Tête, Camille, Salomé Leclerc, Terrenoire, Nouvelle Vague, Brigitte, Barbara Carlotti, Françoiz Breut, Mathieu Boogaerts, Liza Manili (no typo)...
Agreed...his history is deplorable...
"On the night of 10 January 2010, Cantat's former wife Krisztina Rády
died by suicide. At the time of her death, Bertrand Cantat was present
in the house. She was discovered by their children the following day.[14]
Shortly before her death, Rády had complained of mental abuse by
Cantat. The physical abuse she complained of on the answering machine is
that he threw some objects at her, but she never mentioned that he was
assaulting her. According to Cantat, Rády's parents had spent a week
with him after the suicide.[15] Magistrates in Bordeaux investigated Cantat in connection with Rady's suicide, but ultimately decided not to press charges"
Chongo1959 wrote:
No one knows the whole story. It's f**ked up though.
I guess a lot of people here will not be looking at impressionistic art from the late 19th century due to being made by "bad" people.
No one knows the whole story. It's f**ked up though.
I guess a lot of people here will not be looking at impressionistic art from the late 19th century due to being made by "bad" people.
BillG - I agree in separating the art from artist but this guy is not a good guy. A real woman abuser and Murderer. Not good to glorify that.
freemusic wrote:
YUP !!!! You nailed it!! -- No accident, I'm sure. Good call.
Did you read that someplace else, or really discover it the way you described? I had to explain it to someone before they could see it, and even then had to show what the details were, before they recognized that one person.
For others that can't see it, here's a translation of what the details are supposed to represent:
Overall, the cover is supposed to be a photo of ONE person, taken in extreme darkness, so little detail showed up. The torso photo starts at the chin, down to their elbow. Next, they modified the dark shadows slightly, so they kept the overall effect of one person, and changed via Photoshop:
* The horse's legs and tail are dreadlocks
* The rider's foot / stirrup is the chin
* Of the three people below, the right and left peoples' heads are the armpits, their bodies extend the outline of the body
* The middle person is the sternum
* The arms with guns are the outline of the bottom of their breasts
* ? Male or Female ?
I thought it was rather brilliant, although so obscure, almost no one will figure it out. Maybe someone good with Photoshop can illustrate how it changed better than my words.
We would need, a side-by-side picture of:
* --> The "After-Photoshop, original Album Cover" and,
* --> A "guess representation" of what the "original photo" that was used as the basis, before Photoshop changes were made.
How about just another gram of psilocybin?
YUP !!!! You nailed it!! -- No accident, I'm sure. Good call.
Did you read that someplace else, or really discover it the way you described? I had to explain it to someone before they could see it, and even then had to show what the details were, before they recognized that one person.
For others that can't see it, here's a translation of what the details are supposed to represent:
Overall, the cover is supposed to be a photo of ONE person, taken in extreme darkness, so little detail showed up. The torso photo starts at the chin, down to their elbow. Next, they modified the dark shadows slightly, so they kept the overall effect of one person, and changed via Photoshop:
* The horse's legs and tail are dreadlocks
* The rider's foot / stirrup is the chin
* Of the three people below, the right and left peoples' heads are the armpits, their bodies extend the outline of the body
* The middle person is the sternum
* The arms with guns are the outline of the bottom of their breasts
* ? Male or Female ?
I thought it was rather brilliant, although so obscure, almost no one will figure it out. Maybe someone good with Photoshop can illustrate how it changed better than my words.
We would need, a side-by-side picture of:
* --> The "After-Photoshop, original Album Cover" and,
* --> A "guess representation" of what the "original photo" that was used as the basis, before Photoshop changes were made.
How about just another gram of psilocybin?
Maybe not broadcast song by a convicted murderer= bad taste!"
Il y a tant d'autres bonnes chansons de ce groupe.
andrewj6446 wrote:
YUP !!!! You nailed it!! -- No accident, I'm sure. Good call.
Did you read that someplace else, or really discover it the way you described? I had to explain it to someone before they could see it, and even then had to show what the details were, before they recognized that one person.
For others that can't see it, here's a translation of what the details are supposed to represent:
Overall, the cover is supposed to be a photo of ONE person, taken in extreme darkness, so little detail showed up. The torso photo starts at the chin, down to their elbow. Next, they modified the dark shadows slightly, so they kept the overall effect of one person, and changed via Photoshop:
* The horse's legs and tail are dreadlocks
* The rider's foot / stirrup is the chin
* Of the three people below, the right and left peoples' heads are the armpits, their bodies extend the outline of the body
* The middle person is the sternum
* The arms with guns are the outline of the bottom of their breasts
* ? Male or Female ?
I thought it was rather brilliant, although so obscure, almost no one will figure it out. Maybe someone good with Photoshop can illustrate how it changed better than my words.
We would need, a side-by-side picture of:
* --> The "After-Photoshop, original Album Cover" and,
* --> A "guess representation" of what the "original photo" that was used as the basis, before Photoshop changes were made.
I just looked at that album cover without my reading glasses on and saw the bare torso of a person with straggly dreads. Can somebody please blur their vision and tell me I'm not being weird...thanks!
YUP !!!! You nailed it!! -- No accident, I'm sure. Good call.
Did you read that someplace else, or really discover it the way you described? I had to explain it to someone before they could see it, and even then had to show what the details were, before they recognized that one person.
For others that can't see it, here's a translation of what the details are supposed to represent:
Overall, the cover is supposed to be a photo of ONE person, taken in extreme darkness, so little detail showed up. The torso photo starts at the chin, down to their elbow. Next, they modified the dark shadows slightly, so they kept the overall effect of one person, and changed via Photoshop:
* The horse's legs and tail are dreadlocks
* The rider's foot / stirrup is the chin
* Of the three people below, the right and left peoples' heads are the armpits, their bodies extend the outline of the body
* The middle person is the sternum
* The arms with guns are the outline of the bottom of their breasts
* ? Male or Female ?
I thought it was rather brilliant, although so obscure, almost no one will figure it out. Maybe someone good with Photoshop can illustrate how it changed better than my words.
We would need, a side-by-side picture of:
* --> The "After-Photoshop, original Album Cover" and,
* --> A "guess representation" of what the "original photo" that was used as the basis, before Photoshop changes were made.
Don't understand French, but a great song anyways
chantal.zucker wrote:
Bertrand Cantat killed Marie Trintignant with some 19 blows, mainly to the head. He was sentenced in Lithuania to 8 years prison. Only 8 because the verdict was murder with indirect intent. Which makes sense when you kill somebody with 20 blows only. He was released on parole 4 years later for good behavior... He could enjoy his life again after 4 years while Marie Trintigant is still dead... those 4 years did not do justice, it's much too short a time.
The music might be good but this circumstances revolt me each time I hear it, I can't support this with a good rating.
There are many other non-mainstream French and French speaking artists worth listening to: Lescop, Dominique A, Christine and The Queens, Fredda, Izia, Les Yeux D'La Tête, Camille, Salomé Leclerc, Terrenoire, Nouvelle Vague, Brigitte, Barbara Carlotti, Françoiz Breut, Mathieu Boogaerts, Liza Manili (no typo)...
Thanks for the information. I totally agree with your sentiments, and while I have never questioned the choice of music by Bill and Rebecca, I advocate that any song involving Cantat be struck from the playlist until he dies. Unless I'm mistaken, Cantat will still be collecting royalties every time his music gets played - and that's not where I want my monthly payment to RP to go.
Bertrand Cantat killed Marie Trintignant with some 19 blows, mainly to the head. He was sentenced in Lithuania to 8 years prison. Only 8 because the verdict was murder with indirect intent. Which makes sense when you kill somebody with 20 blows only. He was released on parole 4 years later for good behavior... He could enjoy his life again after 4 years while Marie Trintigant is still dead... those 4 years did not do justice, it's much too short a time.
The music might be good but this circumstances revolt me each time I hear it, I can't support this with a good rating.
There are many other non-mainstream French and French speaking artists worth listening to: Lescop, Dominique A, Christine and The Queens, Fredda, Izia, Les Yeux D'La Tête, Camille, Salomé Leclerc, Terrenoire, Nouvelle Vague, Brigitte, Barbara Carlotti, Françoiz Breut, Mathieu Boogaerts, Liza Manili (no typo)...
Thanks for the information. I totally agree with your sentiments, and while I have never questioned the choice of music by Bill and Rebecca, I advocate that any song involving Cantat be struck from the playlist until he dies. Unless I'm mistaken, Cantat will still be collecting royalties every time his music gets played - and that's not where I want my monthly payment to RP to go.
Should have read comments first. Not a good person - period.
Never heard this nor this grp. Nice, very nice!
Damn. This one hits me with that simple, slappy, acoustic bass line. Rock, after all, is about getting out of your body and into your head. This gets you (or at least me) there. You can imagine an incredible dance routine to this song. I don't like the guitar solo as much though.
I just looked at that album cover without my reading glasses on and saw the bare torso of a person with straggly dreads. Can somebody please blur their vision and tell me I'm not being weird...thanks!
Ryan Adams is never played on this station but a song from someone who murdered his mistress is OK.
Can we not give the murderer and abuser more airtime? Thx.
chantal.zucker wrote:
Bertrand Cantat killed Marie Trintignant with some 19 blows, mainly to the head. He was sentenced in Lithuania to 8 years prison. Only 8 because the verdict was murder with indirect intent. Which makes sense when you kill somebody with 20 blows only. He was released on parole 4 years later for good behavior... He could enjoy his life again after 4 years while Marie Trintigant is still dead... those 4 years did not do justice, it's much too short a time.
The music might be good but this circumstances revolt me each time I hear it, I can't support this with a good rating.
There are many other non-mainstream French and French speaking artists worth listening to: Lescop, Dominique A, Christine and The Queens, Fredda, Izia, Les Yeux D'La Tête, Camille, Salomé Leclerc, Terrenoire, Nouvelle Vague, Brigitte, Barbara Carlotti, Françoiz Breut, Mathieu Boogaerts, Liza Manili (no typo)...
Wow -- thanks for the backstory. I was grooving to this till I read this. Giving it a 1 in that I can't support this artist with that background.
Bertrand Cantat killed Marie Trintignant with some 19 blows, mainly to the head. He was sentenced in Lithuania to 8 years prison. Only 8 because the verdict was murder with indirect intent. Which makes sense when you kill somebody with 20 blows only. He was released on parole 4 years later for good behavior... He could enjoy his life again after 4 years while Marie Trintigant is still dead... those 4 years did not do justice, it's much too short a time.
The music might be good but this circumstances revolt me each time I hear it, I can't support this with a good rating.
There are many other non-mainstream French and French speaking artists worth listening to: Lescop, Dominique A, Christine and The Queens, Fredda, Izia, Les Yeux D'La Tête, Camille, Salomé Leclerc, Terrenoire, Nouvelle Vague, Brigitte, Barbara Carlotti, Françoiz Breut, Mathieu Boogaerts, Liza Manili (no typo)...
Wow -- thanks for the backstory. I was grooving to this till I read this. Giving it a 1 in that I can't support this artist with that background.
Nice groove but gets a big fat 1 from me for killing his squeeze.
I only know one thing; you hold
My joy, my pain, in your hands
You are the breath, the link,
My child king, my magician
[Chorus] :
Nothing belongs to me
But to the south I'm coming back
Drowned in the hearts of crowds
It is in your river that I flow
When all the golden bridges crumble
It's your air that I get drunk
[Chorus]
Unknown territories
I walk through them, I include them
My country, my blood, my street
Are in your eyes, I saw them
My joy, my pain, in your hands
You are the breath, the link,
My child king, my magician
[Chorus] :
Nothing belongs to me
But to the south I'm coming back
Drowned in the hearts of crowds
It is in your river that I flow
When all the golden bridges crumble
It's your air that I get drunk
[Chorus]
Unknown territories
I walk through them, I include them
My country, my blood, my street
Are in your eyes, I saw them
ziggytrix wrote:
Hey, it's hard to sing on all these anti-depressants
this song is in French?!
(all this time I'd not really listened and thought it was just another poorly enunciated Radiohead clone)
Hey, it's hard to sing on all these anti-depressants
ziggytrix wrote:this song is in French?!
(all this time I'd not really listened and thought it was just another poorly enunciated Radiohead clone)
vandal wrote:
Not his wife, his mistress.
Bertrand Cantat killed Marie Trintignant with some 19 blows, mainly to the head. He was sentenced in Lithuania to 8 years prison. Only 8 because the verdict was murder with indirect intent. Which makes sense when you kill somebody with 20 blows only. He was released on parole 4 years later for good behavior... He could enjoy his life again after 4 years while Marie Trintigant is still dead... those 4 years did not do justice, it's much too short a time.
The music might be good but this circumstances revolt me each time I hear it, I can't support this with a good rating.
There are many other non-mainstream French and French speaking artists worth listening to: Lescop, Dominique A, Christine and The Queens, Fredda, Izia, Les Yeux D'La Tête, Camille, Salomé Leclerc, Terrenoire, Nouvelle Vague, Brigitte, Barbara Carlotti, Françoiz Breut, Mathieu Boogaerts, Liza Manili (no typo)...
Not his wife, his mistress.
Bertrand Cantat killed Marie Trintignant with some 19 blows, mainly to the head. He was sentenced in Lithuania to 8 years prison. Only 8 because the verdict was murder with indirect intent. Which makes sense when you kill somebody with 20 blows only. He was released on parole 4 years later for good behavior... He could enjoy his life again after 4 years while Marie Trintigant is still dead... those 4 years did not do justice, it's much too short a time.
The music might be good but this circumstances revolt me each time I hear it, I can't support this with a good rating.
There are many other non-mainstream French and French speaking artists worth listening to: Lescop, Dominique A, Christine and The Queens, Fredda, Izia, Les Yeux D'La Tête, Camille, Salomé Leclerc, Terrenoire, Nouvelle Vague, Brigitte, Barbara Carlotti, Françoiz Breut, Mathieu Boogaerts, Liza Manili (no typo)...
CoYoT51 wrote:
Boycott...?
Just remember this guy hit his wife to death.
Boycott...?
CoYoT51 wrote:
Not his wife, his mistress.
Just remember this guy hit his wife to death.
Not his wife, his mistress.
From Rosanne Cash's World of Strange Design to this . . . perfect segue.
eveliko wrote: Well say Bill (a French boy)
The truth is rather, 99% of French radios are crap (today, not back in 1981) because they are not independent anymore and just like many media including TV channels, they now belong to weapon companies, construction empires and/or supermarket chains who have little interest at all in defending quality and alternative artists out of the mainstream commercial "soupe". You might nevertheless wanna try to lay an indulgent ear on Radio Grenouille 88.8 in Marseille, it helped me partly reconciliate with music in my native language, not only from France but also from Africa. To some extent, Grenouille has a similar approach of programmation to that of RP (independent, different, subversive, sometimes radical, often unexpected, always consistent. And with a distinctive "sound color"). Sincerely hope that will make your stay in France more enjoyable, although I agree with you it's almost impossible to enter any local store or restaurant without having to endure Chérie FM. I do know the pain. Good luck!
The truth is rather, 99% of French radios are crap (today, not back in 1981) because they are not independent anymore and just like many media including TV channels, they now belong to weapon companies, construction empires and/or supermarket chains who have little interest at all in defending quality and alternative artists out of the mainstream commercial "soupe". You might nevertheless wanna try to lay an indulgent ear on Radio Grenouille 88.8 in Marseille, it helped me partly reconciliate with music in my native language, not only from France but also from Africa. To some extent, Grenouille has a similar approach of programmation to that of RP (independent, different, subversive, sometimes radical, often unexpected, always consistent. And with a distinctive "sound color"). Sincerely hope that will make your stay in France more enjoyable, although I agree with you it's almost impossible to enter any local store or restaurant without having to endure Chérie FM. I do know the pain. Good luck!
philbertr wrote:
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks, Bill, for bringing us stuff we'd never, never ever hear on corporate radio.... Keep pushing back those horizons, we in America need to hear a lot more from the rest of the world--it just might help chip away at some of that Ugly American arrogance.
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just remember this guy hit his wife to death.
Songs like this keep me tuned to RP. French Alt Rock....so kool
Nice playlist Bill! Thank you and cheers!
I know only one thing; you hold
My joy, my pain, in your hands
You are the breath, the link,
My child king, my magician
[Chorus] :
Nothing belongs to me
But south I come back
Drowned in the hearts of the crowds
It's in your river that I flow
When all the golden bridges collapse
It's your air that I get drunk
[Chorus]
Unknown territories
I walk them, I include them
My country, my blood, my street
Are in your eyes, I saw them
My joy, my pain, in your hands
You are the breath, the link,
My child king, my magician
[Chorus] :
Nothing belongs to me
But south I come back
Drowned in the hearts of the crowds
It's in your river that I flow
When all the golden bridges collapse
It's your air that I get drunk
[Chorus]
Unknown territories
I walk them, I include them
My country, my blood, my street
Are in your eyes, I saw them
My neck is getting a GREAT workout ...
ziggytrix wrote: Radiohead 1985 - Noir désir 1980 ... So who's the clone ?? 
this song is in French?!
(all this time I'd not really listened and thought it was just another poorly enunciated Radiohead clone)
Love the bass. Haunting.
J'aime la Radiotête! ;P
TOSTAKI 
You must listen to the whole album. It's just amazing!
Thought this was Radiohead and was about to PSD, but then I thought I'd found one of their songs I actually liked. Then I checked the artist. No wonder!
Et moi, je suis en Alsace à écouter le même morceau... Je comprends ce que tu ressens, ayant vécu quelques années en Asie du Sud Est. J'ai ressenti un la même chose lorsque je suis revenue.
I've been living away from France a long time, almost 20 years.
This song is from a time when I was briefly back in Alsace,trying to figure out what to do with my l life, and, if I would stay, what kind of life to lead there.
I came to realize that my family didn't get along very well with me being back: they got used to not seeing me so often, I wasn't really a part of it anyway.
My friends had all gone their ways, we were strangers.
I wanted a way out of my previous job, working in big institutions or private companies, where purpose is lost in size, paperwork, uselessness. I decided to apply to an international NGO, specialized in medical support and emergency, trying to do something useful with my life and leave everything behind.
To my surprise my application was well received and some months after I was on my way to China,... where I still live today.
In a way this music sums up my feelings about my hometown, family ties, old friends, memories and the desire to move on, the necessity to grow up. It always moves me deeply. In a light way.
I've been living away from France a long time, almost 20 years.
This song is from a time when I was briefly back in Alsace,trying to figure out what to do with my l life, and, if I would stay, what kind of life to lead there.
I came to realize that my family didn't get along very well with me being back: they got used to not seeing me so often, I wasn't really a part of it anyway.
My friends had all gone their ways, we were strangers.
I wanted a way out of my previous job, working in big institutions or private companies, where purpose is lost in size, paperwork, uselessness. I decided to apply to an international NGO, specialized in medical support and emergency, trying to do something useful with my life and leave everything behind.
To my surprise my application was well received and some months after I was on my way to China,... where I still live today.
In a way this music sums up my feelings about my hometown, family ties, old friends, memories and the desire to move on, the necessity to grow up. It always moves me deeply. In a light way.
Thought this was Radiohead and was about to PSD, but then I thought I'd found one of their songs I actually liked. Then I checked the artist. No wonder!
Nifty. I like it. Toetappingtastic.
I like this.
In the same vein as Shriekback and all the other my spine is the base line bands of that era.
In the same vein as Shriekback and all the other my spine is the base line bands of that era.
Truly this is one of the worst songs on the playlist. Repetitive and boring. Please let this one sink to the bottom where it belongs.
ouch
I've been living away from France a long time, almost 20 years.
This song is from a time when I was briefly back in Alsace,trying to figure out what to do with my l life, and, if I would stay, what kind of life to lead there.
I came to realize that my family didn't get along very well with me being back: they got used to not seeing me so often, I wasn't really a part of it anyway.
My friends had all gone their ways, we were strangers.
I wanted a way out of my previous job, working in big institutions or private companies, where purpose is lost in size, paperwork, uselessness. I decided to apply to an international NGO, specialized in medical support and emergency, trying to do something useful with my life and leave everything behind.
To my surprise my application was well received and some months after I was on my way to China,... where I still live today.
In a way this music sums up my feelings about my hometown, family ties, old friends, memories and the desire to move on, the necessity to grow up. It always moves me deeply. In a light way.
HAPPY BASTILLE DAY!!! (you can keep the trump as our gift dunce : )
Noir Dez' on a US radio. Wow! Not my favorite one, but still deserves a good rating. Le vent nous portera (from the same album) or A ton étoile (from the previous one) definitley worth a listening. Sophie Hunger's cover of Le vent nous portera is always close to making me cry
Noé wrote:
MERDE tout simplement
MERDE tout simplement
ChrisVIII wrote:
what a nice way to generalise or show how little understanding for French culture you have, though living in the country...
Try integrate better to understand the songs and artists background and get in touch with their universe instead of rejecting it in mass. Your comment is absurd and living in a country doesn't necessarily make you an expert in all things this country. Your case is a good example.
There is plenty of good music in France, plenty of talented artists, just like in any other country. Just like everywhere, you find them even more easily if you look outside of the mainstream pool.
MERDE
what a nice way to generalise or show how little understanding for French culture you have, though living in the country...
Try integrate better to understand the songs and artists background and get in touch with their universe instead of rejecting it in mass. Your comment is absurd and living in a country doesn't necessarily make you an expert in all things this country. Your case is a good example.
There is plenty of good music in France, plenty of talented artists, just like in any other country. Just like everywhere, you find them even more easily if you look outside of the mainstream pool.
MERDE
TOSTAKI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
That is what I was hearing: "Spider's Web" by Joan Osborne! Definitely!! Gracias amigo. Although "Find the Cost of Freedom" is a good call too. I saw CSN&Y sing that live, in Jersey City, New Jersey, on August 9, 1974, the day Richard Nixon announced his resignation from the presidency of the U.S. CSN&Y started the show shouting a celebration with the whole audience (No Nixon fans there that night!) and then playing "Long Time Coming".
NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
not necessarily true.
NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
not necessarily true.
French rule !
tallboy1968 wrote:
OK. I couldn't stand it. Had do hack something together myself. Fits, right?
https://youtu.be/Mkb6RWhOktQ
The phrasing from this song was haunting my brain because it sounded like something deep in my memory. But, I couldn't figure it out. Until it finally came to me. This song is a modern day version of Crosby Stills Nash & Young's "Find the Cost to Freedom".
Potential copyright issues aside, someone with skills could do one hell of a mashup with these two songs.
1971:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFD-rqqQhI
2001:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dw2Zewcr2I
Potential copyright issues aside, someone with skills could do one hell of a mashup with these two songs.
1971:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFD-rqqQhI
2001:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dw2Zewcr2I
OK. I couldn't stand it. Had do hack something together myself. Fits, right?
https://youtu.be/Mkb6RWhOktQ
pcc wrote:
not necessarily true.
On_The_Beach wrote:
Yes I get that so yogurt is ok
Anyone else hearing Joan Osborne's "Spider web"?
OK, maybe I shouldn't have eaten that expired yogurt.
OK, maybe I shouldn't have eaten that expired yogurt.
Yes I get that so yogurt is ok
not necessarily true.
The phrasing from this song was haunting my brain because it sounded like something deep in my memory. But, I couldn't figure it out. Until it finally came to me. This song is a modern day version of Crosby Stills Nash & Young's "Find the Cost to Freedom".
Potential copyright issues aside, someone with skills could do one hell of a mashup with these two songs.
1971:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFD-rqqQhI
2001:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dw2Zewcr2I
Potential copyright issues aside, someone with skills could do one hell of a mashup with these two songs.
1971:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFD-rqqQhI
2001:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dw2Zewcr2I
oldsaxon wrote:
Don't worry, it's just two anonymous wankers on an internet forum trying to be funny. Wait...I think you were talking about the artist, weren't you? Well, this was before that and he was tried, convicted and served his time as is right. It doesn't reduce his contributions as an artist up to that episode at all.
Cantat served four years of his eight-year sentence in prison.
Don't worry, it's just two anonymous wankers on an internet forum trying to be funny. Wait...I think you were talking about the artist, weren't you? Well, this was before that and he was tried, convicted and served his time as is right. It doesn't reduce his contributions as an artist up to that episode at all.
Cantat served four years of his eight-year sentence in prison.
turtle49 wrote:
Yes, I mentioned it earlier, although the song title is "Spider Web".
Cheers.
This song sounds strikingly similar to Joan Osbourne's "Ray Charles." Anyone else agree?
Yes, I mentioned it earlier, although the song title is "Spider Web".
Cheers.
Dosequis wrote:
LOL
LOOP WHY DON"T YOU !!!!
LOL
This song sounds strikingly similar to Joan Osbourne's "Ray Charles." Anyone else agree?
LOOP WHY DON"T YOU !!!!
Cool du Noir Dez !
Feels slightly menacing. Tres cool.
WonderLizard wrote:
Chacun a son gout.
I like Port and fortunately do not have gout.
Chacun a son gout.
I like Port and fortunately do not have gout.
I do know one thing; you hold
My joy, my pain, into your hands
You are the breath, the link,
My child king, my magician
:
Nothing belongs to me
But I return to the south
Drowned in the hearts of crowds
It is in your river flows I am
When all the gold bridges collapse
It's your air I get drunk
The unknown territories
I course, I included it
My country, my blood, my street
Are in your eyes, I saw them
9
My joy, my pain, into your hands
You are the breath, the link,
My child king, my magician
:
Nothing belongs to me
But I return to the south
Drowned in the hearts of crowds
It is in your river flows I am
When all the gold bridges collapse
It's your air I get drunk
The unknown territories
I course, I included it
My country, my blood, my street
Are in your eyes, I saw them
9
Eerily appropriate for today — thinking about you Paris... be strong.
Mon pays, mon sang, ma rue
Sont dans tes yeux, je les ai vus
Mon pays, mon sang, ma rue
Sont dans tes yeux, je les ai vus
On_The_Beach wrote:
Yes I get that so yogurt is ok
Anyone else hearing Joan Osborne's "Spider web"?
OK, maybe I shouldn't have eaten that expired yogurt.
OK, maybe I shouldn't have eaten that expired yogurt.
Yes I get that so yogurt is ok
mgkiwi wrote:
The truth is rather, 99% of French radios are crap (today, not back in 1981) because they are not independent anymore and just like many media including TV channels, they now belong to weapon companies, construction empires and/or supermarket chains who have little interest at all in defending quality and alternative artists out of the mainstream commercial "soupe". You might nevertheless wanna try to lay an indulgent ear on Radio Grenouille 88.8 in Marseille, it helped me partly reconciliate with music in my native language, not only from France but also from Africa. To some extent, Grenouille has a similar approach of programmation to that of RP (independent, different, subversive, sometimes radical, often unexpected, always consistent. And with a distinctive "sound color"). Sincerely hope that will make your stay in France more enjoyable, although I agree with you it's almost impossible to enter any local store or restaurant without having to endure Chérie FM. I do know the pain. Good luck!
99% of French songs are crap!! I live in France, I have first hand knowledge!!!! 
The truth is rather, 99% of French radios are crap (today, not back in 1981) because they are not independent anymore and just like many media including TV channels, they now belong to weapon companies, construction empires and/or supermarket chains who have little interest at all in defending quality and alternative artists out of the mainstream commercial "soupe". You might nevertheless wanna try to lay an indulgent ear on Radio Grenouille 88.8 in Marseille, it helped me partly reconciliate with music in my native language, not only from France but also from Africa. To some extent, Grenouille has a similar approach of programmation to that of RP (independent, different, subversive, sometimes radical, often unexpected, always consistent. And with a distinctive "sound color"). Sincerely hope that will make your stay in France more enjoyable, although I agree with you it's almost impossible to enter any local store or restaurant without having to endure Chérie FM. I do know the pain. Good luck!
Really conjures the atmosphere of that album art; faceless shadowed drones, marching on and on...
Awesome tune. 8
Awesome tune. 8
I prefer their older stuff like "un jour en France".
His voice is so intense...
His voice is so intense...
My ears are recovering from the terrible attack upon them of Elton John bilge. This song is heaven.
More Noir Désir, please, guys.
More Noir Désir, please, guys.
Man, talk about milking a bass line. Gee wilikers!
clelaed wrote:
True.
The guy could be a scumbag, but the music... what a groove!!!
Man! all the Feet were tapping in the office, while we worked, everything short of breaking out dancing. what a groove
True.
The guy could be a scumbag, but the music... what a groove!!!
Anyone else hearing Joan Osborne's "Spider web"?
OK, maybe I shouldn't have eaten that expired yogurt.
OK, maybe I shouldn't have eaten that expired yogurt.
mgkiwi wrote:
what a nice way to generalise or show how little understanding for French culture you have, though living in the country...
Try integrate better to understand the songs and artists background and get in touch with their universe instead of rejecting it in mass. Your comment is absurd and living in a country doesn't necessarily make you an expert in all things this country. Your case is a good example.
There is plenty of good music in France, plenty of talented artists, just like in any other country. Just like everywhere, you find them even more easily if you look outside of the mainstream pool.
99% of French songs are crap!! I live in France, I have first hand knowledge!!!!
what a nice way to generalise or show how little understanding for French culture you have, though living in the country...
Try integrate better to understand the songs and artists background and get in touch with their universe instead of rejecting it in mass. Your comment is absurd and living in a country doesn't necessarily make you an expert in all things this country. Your case is a good example.
There is plenty of good music in France, plenty of talented artists, just like in any other country. Just like everywhere, you find them even more easily if you look outside of the mainstream pool.
Man! all the Feet were tapping in the office, while we worked, everything short of breaking out dancing. what a groove
Interesting. It got my attention, at least - and not in the PSD sense. 
Sometimes I think Bill just plays this song because the comments here are a lot more interesting for him to read than a Peter Gabriel or Mark Knopfler tune.
BobbyCat wrote:
So a man killer is any better?
Sorry, I can't hear the voice of a woman killer.
So a man killer is any better?
I don't like Bertrand Canta( the singer) (the killer like some people said and call him .. but I recognize that he's a big rock's musician
Vive Le 1% de chansons francaises qui sont bonnes .....@ gkiwi tu ne connais rien des chansons francaises !!!!
If you haven't yet thought of this, try Joan Osborne's "spider web" after this one.
mgkiwi wrote:
Chacun a son gout.
99% of French songs are crap!! I live in France, I have first hand knowledge!!!!
Chacun a son gout.
mgkiwi wrote:
I will defer to you in all matters French.
99% of French songs are crap!! I live in France, I have first hand knowledge!!!!
I will defer to you in all matters French.99% of French songs are crap!! I live in France, I have first hand knowledge!!!!
rdo wrote:
I find it truly disturbing that what gets oldsaxon all hot and riled up is "anonymous wankers on an internet forum", but he has no qualms about a brutal psychopathic murderer going free after four years. My guess is he'll be attending their concert and wanting to congratulate the lead singer in person.
This is European morality in the 21st century. Amazing.
What really amazes me is how you infer the morality of an entire continent for an entire century from the ten lines you read on Wikipedia about one man. Go home Sherlock, you're drunk.
Anyway, that's a good song, but not my favourite off this album!
I find it truly disturbing that what gets oldsaxon all hot and riled up is "anonymous wankers on an internet forum", but he has no qualms about a brutal psychopathic murderer going free after four years. My guess is he'll be attending their concert and wanting to congratulate the lead singer in person.
This is European morality in the 21st century. Amazing.
What really amazes me is how you infer the morality of an entire continent for an entire century from the ten lines you read on Wikipedia about one man. Go home Sherlock, you're drunk.
Anyway, that's a good song, but not my favourite off this album!
Sorry, I can't hear the voice of a woman killer.
rdo wrote:
I think you'll find he (not Oldsaxon!) did time for manslaughter, not murder.... and I'm not really sure you're qualified to diagnose whether he's a brutal pyschopath or not?
Just saying.....
I find it truly disturbing that what gets oldsaxon all hot and riled up is "anonymous wankers on an internet forum", but he has no qualms about a brutal psychopathic murderer going free after four years. My guess is he'll be attending their concert and wanting to congratulate the lead singer in person.
This is European morality in the 21st century. Amazing.
This is European morality in the 21st century. Amazing.
I think you'll find he (not Oldsaxon!) did time for manslaughter, not murder.... and I'm not really sure you're qualified to diagnose whether he's a brutal pyschopath or not?
Just saying.....
Sons of Shriekback.
oldsaxon wrote:
Don't worry, it's just two anonymous wankers on an internet forum trying to be funny. Wait...I think you were talking about the artist, weren't you? Well, this was before that and he was tried, convicted and served his time as is right. It doesn't reduce his contributions as an artist up to that episode at all.
I find it truly disturbing that what gets oldsaxon all hot and riled up is "anonymous wankers on an internet forum", but he has no qualms about a brutal psychopathic murderer going free after four years. My guess is he'll be attending their concert and wanting to congratulate the lead singer in person.
This is European morality in the 21st century. Amazing.
oldsaxon has the dubious distinction of being the only person I have ever seen on the internet, or anywhere else for that matter, defend the North Korean government. He is a socialist.
Read the book The Orphan Master's Son, which won the Pulitzer Prize in fiction and is haled by critics across the board, around the world. It was written by a Stanford professor (yeah, that right-wing bastion, Stanford). It goes into explicit detail of the murderous regime in North Korea and it is one of the best works of fiction in recent memory (also read Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall).
Don't worry, it's just two anonymous wankers on an internet forum trying to be funny. Wait...I think you were talking about the artist, weren't you? Well, this was before that and he was tried, convicted and served his time as is right. It doesn't reduce his contributions as an artist up to that episode at all.
I find it truly disturbing that what gets oldsaxon all hot and riled up is "anonymous wankers on an internet forum", but he has no qualms about a brutal psychopathic murderer going free after four years. My guess is he'll be attending their concert and wanting to congratulate the lead singer in person.
This is European morality in the 21st century. Amazing.
oldsaxon has the dubious distinction of being the only person I have ever seen on the internet, or anywhere else for that matter, defend the North Korean government. He is a socialist.
Read the book The Orphan Master's Son, which won the Pulitzer Prize in fiction and is haled by critics across the board, around the world. It was written by a Stanford professor (yeah, that right-wing bastion, Stanford). It goes into explicit detail of the murderous regime in North Korea and it is one of the best works of fiction in recent memory (also read Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall).
ch83575 wrote:
Terrible... just terrible. Honestly, I just can't imagine what kind of thoughts go through the mind of a person capable of beating another human being to death in anger. It's an odd world we live in.
Don't worry, it's just two anonymous wankers on an internet forum trying to be funny. Wait...I think you were talking about the artist, weren't you? Well, this was before that and he was tried, convicted and served his time as is right. It doesn't reduce his contributions as an artist up to that episode at all.
Terrible... just terrible. Honestly, I just can't imagine what kind of thoughts go through the mind of a person capable of beating another human being to death in anger. It's an odd world we live in.
Don't worry, it's just two anonymous wankers on an internet forum trying to be funny. Wait...I think you were talking about the artist, weren't you? Well, this was before that and he was tried, convicted and served his time as is right. It doesn't reduce his contributions as an artist up to that episode at all.
Tous les gens sont capable de faire n'importe quoi dans des circonstances certains.
Moi, toi et tous les autres--sans exception.
(Yes, many of us speak French in Canada!)
Moi, toi et tous les autres--sans exception.
(Yes, many of us speak French in Canada!)
rdo wrote:
He really murders it...
Terrible... just terrible. Honestly, I just can't imagine what kind of thoughts go through the mind of a person capable of beating another human being to death in anger. It's an odd world we live in.
He really murders it...
Terrible... just terrible. Honestly, I just can't imagine what kind of thoughts go through the mind of a person capable of beating another human being to death in anger. It's an odd world we live in.
So nice to get french music offered for listening on RP ! That´s a really great radio indeed, so eclectic and open minded. Noir Désir is one of the most great group here in France; try also Louise Attaque, Alain Bashung, Francis Cabrel or Yves Simon. I'm pretty sure there is something you will enjoy !
Stingray wrote:
He really murders it...
KILLER MUSIC!
He really murders it...
no way:!
Diggin' this tune!
Great track. Horrible distortion.
KILLER MUSIC!
This is great! And I must have thought so earlier, since I've already voted it 8. (Thanks for the translated lyrics! Ain't they speakin' da truth?)
Repetitive, repetitive.
Ditto.
Love it
Je t'aime
Work break....Is this like the French Iron and Wine or something?
I love this album! Quite different from the previous ones, but so good.
Most of the band members are from Bordeaux area, most famous for their wines, South-West of France, and as most of the French having to be in the Capital for a reason or another, home is the dearest place, full of memories, roots and sprouts...
Here is a translation by Lyricstranslate website (here https://lyricstranslate.com/fr/l039enfant-roi-king-child.html)
Most of the band members are from Bordeaux area, most famous for their wines, South-West of France, and as most of the French having to be in the Capital for a reason or another, home is the dearest place, full of memories, roots and sprouts...
Here is a translation by Lyricstranslate website (here https://lyricstranslate.com/fr/l039enfant-roi-king-child.html)
The King Child
I only know one thing
You hold my joy, my pain in your hands.
You are the breath, the link,
my king child, my magician.
Nothing belongs to me
(But) To the south I return
Drowned in the heart of crowds
It's in your river that I flow across.
When all the golden bridges collapse
It's from your air that I get drunk
Nothing belongs to me
(But) To the south I return
I run through and include
The Unkown territories.
My country, my blood, my street
are in your eyes, I saw them.
Such a cool sounding song... don't really need a translation! :)
waiting for "Le vent ..."
bendame wrote:
bendame wrote:
Bill, there are other songs on that album... Try "Le vent nous portera".
ThePoose wrote:
Is that so? Je me demande si vous avez cette opinion a cause de la fait que vous parlez seulement anglais.
Laissez-moi--et tous les autres ici--tranquille, et va au diable!
Capiche, Sparky?
Sparky? Lol.
Is that so? Je me demande si vous avez cette opinion a cause de la fait que vous parlez seulement anglais.
Laissez-moi--et tous les autres ici--tranquille, et va au diable!
Capiche, Sparky?
Sparky? Lol.
Noir Désir does the best cover of Leonard Cohen's "The Partisan" that I've ever heard. Like Cohen's original, it's performed predominantly in English but with a French verse near the end. There are some great YouTube vids of it available.
Together with 16 Horsepower, yeszzz, that indeed is one bad ass cover, hear for yourself