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haresfur

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Posted: Jul 3, 2024 - 8:13pm

 jbuhl wrote:

Guys over on the Audiogon forum complaining last few days about SONOS problems in general.  Throwing up their hands and looking for a different product.  I have a W4S moded Sonos ZP90 that has been working great as a ROON endpoint.  Today F'n dead.  Had to run RP off a Roku.  Not sure  if its related to anything recently with Sonos as its no longer hooked to the mother ship. 



I read that there are some apps to replace the SONOS app for apple and android and that one, with a modest fee, is topping the paid app downloads. You may still need the Sonos app to set up systems but not for everyday use.
haresfur

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Posted: Jul 3, 2024 - 8:13pm

 jbuhl wrote:

Guys over on the Audiogon forum complaining last few days about SONOS problems in general.  Throwing up their hands and looking for a different product.  I have a W4S moded Sonos ZP90 that has been working great as a ROON endpoint.  Today F'n dead.  Had to run RP off a Roku.  Not sure  if its related to anything recently with Sonos as its no longer hooked to the mother ship. 



I read that there are some apps to replace the SONOS app for apple and android and that one, with a modest fee, is topping the paid app downloads. You may still need the Sonos app to set up systems but not for everyday use.
jbuhl

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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 11:09am

Guys over on the Audiogon forum complaining last few days about SONOS problems in general.  Throwing up their hands and looking for a different product.  I have a W4S moded Sonos ZP90 that has been working great as a ROON endpoint.  Today F'n dead.  Had to run RP off a Roku.  Not sure  if its related to anything recently with Sonos as its no longer hooked to the mother ship. 
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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 6:20am

 Marco99 wrote:

Same problem here, I’ve been trying all sorts things, but so far nothing seems to have worked. Sonos support had me remove RP and then add it back. Still having intermittent skip/ pause issues. I tried lower bit rate but no joy 



Ditto here. Although the skipping is not intermittent, it's nearly constant. A song will start and 15 seconds later it stops and another song starts, unless it simply stops playing. No relief after reinstalling and reauthorizing the app. 
Marco99



Posted: Jun 30, 2024 - 6:14am

 jburns5 wrote:

For the last 3-4 weeks, RP will randomly skip (mid-song) and/or momentarily pause. Streaming RP through SONOS Play:1 from SONOS app. Any advice/info greatly appreciated.


Same, same, same. Only happens with RP . Tried reauthorizing …no joy

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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 9:17pm

 jburns5 wrote:

For the last 3-4 weeks, RP will randomly skip (mid-song) and/or momentarily pause. Streaming RP through SONOS Play:1 from SONOS app. Any advice/info greatly appreciated.




re-authorize Sonos to use the Tunein service by creating an account. It´s easy - just ignore the premium option



Marco99



Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 6:38am

 jburns5 wrote:

For the last 3-4 weeks, RP will randomly skip (mid-song) and/or momentarily pause. Streaming RP through SONOS Play:1 from SONOS app. Any advice/info greatly appreciated.


Same problem here, I’ve been trying all sorts things, but so far nothing seems to have worked. Sonos support had me remove RP and then add it back. Still having intermittent skip/ pause issues. I tried lower bit rate but no joy 

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Posted: Jun 28, 2024 - 4:52pm

 haresfur wrote:


Not sure because it appears that people are having lots of random problems. One possibility is that sonos changed things to do a lot with their cloud servers so your system is trying to communicate with the cloud and that is holding up the streaming. Along with the latest sonos app update, they pushed firmware updates to your speakers and that may have buggered things. 

Suggestions? Hold your breath and hope they get their shit together. Maybe try streaming at lower quality, at least to see if that helps, indicating a networking problem. I have my ancient Play:1 hardwired to a node on my mesh because that was the only way I could get it to work. Don't think I have your problem, although I do have that problem with the SOMA flac.


Agreed on lowering the bitrate. That seems to have helped listeners. We've alerted Sonos. What good that will do...??
haresfur

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Posted: Jun 28, 2024 - 3:03pm

 jburns5 wrote:

For the last 3-4 weeks, RP will randomly skip (mid-song) and/or momentarily pause. Streaming RP through SONOS Play:1 from SONOS app. Any advice/info greatly appreciated.



Not sure because it appears that people are having lots of random problems. One possibility is that sonos changed things to do a lot with their cloud servers so your system is trying to communicate with the cloud and that is holding up the streaming. Along with the latest sonos app update, they pushed firmware updates to your speakers and that may have buggered things. 

Suggestions? Hold your breath and hope they get their shit together. Maybe try streaming at lower quality, at least to see if that helps, indicating a networking problem. I have my ancient Play:1 hardwired to a node on my mesh because that was the only way I could get it to work. Don't think I have your problem, although I do have that problem with the SOMA flac.
jburns5



Posted: Jun 28, 2024 - 8:00am

For the last 3-4 weeks, RP will randomly skip (mid-song) and/or momentarily pause. Streaming RP through SONOS Play:1 from SONOS app. Any advice/info greatly appreciated.
thatslongformud

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Posted: Jun 22, 2024 - 6:18am

 haresfur wrote:

What app are you using? From what I can tell, they are primarily developing for iOS and then trickling down to Android. I have given up on my Windows App (what I used most) for now because it won't install the updated version. Need to figure out a computer to delete the old app and try a new install.

The whole situation sucks. You could try posting to reddit r/sonos. There is one Sonos employee monitoring it and maybe someone else has some ideas. Aside from that, maybe keep trying. There seem to be random errors that sometimes resolve themselves.

The android app does seem to be slowly getting better. The bad news is that I hear there are some problems with the new headphones not complying with charging standards so you can't use higher wattage chargers. The push to release the headphones was apparently the main reason behind the release of the crappy apps and the crappy firmware upgrades. Along with changes that seem to be made to poise them to move to a subscription service rather than just supplying hardware that works.

Thanks for that!  I forgot to mention I’m on iOS 17.5.1.  I’m now working around this by playing RP on my phone then air playing it to Sonos.  Not ideal but at least I can use the skip function I now can’t live without and the TuneIn stream doesn’t provide 

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Posted: Jun 19, 2024 - 8:16pm

 thatslongformud wrote:

The new Sonos app seems to have borked my RP integration.   After upgrading the app I was able to still select RP from my services and play the streams, but it wasn't showing up in my recently played list.   to try to fix that I removed the RP service, signed out of sonos, deleted the sonos app then reinstalled, then signed back into Sonos again.   Now when I try to re-add the RP service I get taken to the RP page to authorize  and link my account.  After I get the Success message from RP I go back to the Sonos app and get an error stating "Radio Paradise wasn't added.  Something went wrong.  Please try again"

I've done this several times and always the same result.  Anybody have any tips?



What app are you using? From what I can tell, they are primarily developing for iOS and then trickling down to Android. I have given up on my Windows App (what I used most) for now because it won't install the updated version. Need to figure out a computer to delete the old app and try a new install.

The whole situation sucks. You could try posting to reddit r/sonos. There is one Sonos employee monitoring it and maybe someone else has some ideas. Aside from that, maybe keep trying. There seem to be random errors that sometimes resolve themselves.

The android app does seem to be slowly getting better. The bad news is that I hear there are some problems with the new headphones not complying with charging standards so you can't use higher wattage chargers. The push to release the headphones was apparently the main reason behind the release of the crappy apps and the crappy firmware upgrades. Along with changes that seem to be made to poise them to move to a subscription service rather than just supplying hardware that works.
thatslongformud

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Posted: Jun 19, 2024 - 7:52am

The new Sonos app seems to have borked my RP integration.   After upgrading the app I was able to still select RP from my services and play the streams, but it wasn't showing up in my recently played list.   to try to fix that I removed the RP service, signed out of sonos, deleted the sonos app then reinstalled, then signed back into Sonos again.   Now when I try to re-add the RP service I get taken to the RP page to authorize  and link my account.  After I get the Success message from RP I go back to the Sonos app and get an error stating "Radio Paradise wasn't added.  Something went wrong.  Please try again"

I've done this several times and always the same result.  Anybody have any tips?


konz

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Posted: Jun 13, 2024 - 7:47am

 konz wrote:

I don't know whose issue, or even, if it's an issue.  Maybe the feature no longer works after the new app was released.  Just inquiring about it.  Scrubbrush posted a similar inquiry a couple years ago.  Link to it.
  1. Playing Sonos Gen1 with Favorites on my home network (yes, too cheap to spend $1,000's on new system).
  2. Open browser and navigate to Music > What's Playing.
  3. At the bottom in the Drop Down should show Sonos with Favorites playing, but it's no longer working.  This had been working as recent as last week.
  4. Stopping and closing the Sonos app and opening the Android App to Favorites, then opening the browser and navigating to Music > What's Playing shows 'android app' in the drop-down and the Favorites that are playing are listed.




It's working again.

konz

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Posted: May 30, 2024 - 10:26am

black321 wrote:


In the browser? so is that an RP issue, nothing to do with sonos? I get a message in the browser that i can only play favorites in the RP app. 
I've had no issues with the new Sonos app...streaming RP channels, Tidal, various radio...I dont have any downloads/internally stored music.

I don't know whose issue, or even, if it's an issue.  Maybe the feature no longer works after the new app was released.  Just inquiring about it.  Scrubbrush posted a similar inquiry a couple years ago.  Link to it.
  1. Playing Sonos Gen1 with Favorites on my home network (yes, too cheap to spend $1,000's on new system).
  2. Open browser and navigate to Music > What's Playing.
  3. At the bottom in the Drop Down should show Sonos with Favorites playing, but it's no longer working.  This had been working as recent as last week.
  4. Stopping and closing the Sonos app and opening the Android App to Favorites, then opening the browser and navigating to Music > What's Playing shows 'android app' in the drop-down and the Favorites that are playing are listed.


black321

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Posted: May 30, 2024 - 9:40am

 konz wrote:

So, I used to be able to listen to My Favorites using the Sonos on my Gen1 system and when I'd open RP in a browser, it'd show Sonos under What's Playing .  It's not doing this any more.  Now it only shows the regular RP streams without the Sonos.  However, when using the Android app, it shows 'android app' in the What's Playing drop-down.  Where'd the Sonos entry go?



In the browser? so is that an RP issue, nothing to do with sonos? I get a message in the browser that i can only play favorites in the RP app. 
I've had no issues with the new Sonos app...streaming RP channels, Tidal, various radio...I dont have any downloads/internally stored music.
konz

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Posted: May 30, 2024 - 8:58am

So, I used to be able to listen to My Favorites using the Sonos on my Gen1 system and when I'd open RP in a browser, it'd show Sonos under What's Playing .  It's not doing this any more.  Now it only shows the regular RP streams without the Sonos.  However, when using the Android app, it shows 'android app' in the What's Playing drop-down.  Where'd the Sonos entry go?
haresfur

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Posted: May 26, 2024 - 9:32pm

 islander wrote:


I briefly talked to these guys about a job when they opened their Seattle offices. Even then they were all about how to monetize vs. how to improve. They weren't really inspired by music and my discussion of old school stereo modification didn't really click with them.  I declined when they said parking would cost me $400 / month.



ooof

iirc they were whinging for a while about Alexa et al. stealing their ip about how to set up multi-room streaming

If the new app weren't so borked I would be thinking it's a last-gasp attempt to position themselves for a buyout. If it was, I think they screwed the pooch.
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Posted: May 26, 2024 - 7:51pm

 islander wrote:

I declined when they said parking would cost me $400 / month.




islander

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Posted: May 26, 2024 - 7:42pm

 haresfur wrote:


Working now... for now 

Its not just Sonos, but I can't express how much it pisses me off when companies make changes that are solely designed to produce new revenue streams, with no benefit to the users.



I briefly talked to these guys about a job when they opened their Seattle offices. Even then they were all about how to monetize vs. how to improve. They weren't really inspired by music and my discussion of old school stereo modification didn't really click with them.  I declined when they said parking would cost me $400 / month.

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