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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 1:08pm

 thisbody wrote:


So long as we can't find Joe, he can't find us.

This thought from a far traveled human revolutionizes the way mankind could have been lead to think.



and romeotuma isn’t back with us?
C’mon. Fess up. Is everyone dancing in your hotel room?
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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 1:01pm

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And there are rumors on the internet so that you’re insinuating something nefarious is afoot?
I’m shocked! 




So long as we can't find Joe, he can't find us.

This thought from a far traveled human revolutionizes the way mankind could have been lead to think.

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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 12:46pm

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Am seeing some very strange rumors online about Joe Biden's health.   Some credible reporters are starting to post things and ask questions.  Joe hasn't been seen in public in five days...



And there are rumors on the internet so that you’re insinuating something nefarious is afoot?
I’m shocked! 


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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 11:56am


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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 11:53am

 Beaker wrote:

Am seeing some very strange rumors online about Joe Biden's health.   Some credible reporters are starting to post things and ask questions.  Joe hasn't been seen in public in five days...





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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 11:41am

Am seeing some very strange rumors online about Joe Biden's health.   Some credible reporters are starting to post things and ask questions.  Joe hasn't been seen in public in five days...
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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 11:12am

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Have they told Joe that he's withdrawn from the race for President yet?





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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 10:36am



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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 10:30am

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Have they told Joe that he's withdrawn from the race for President yet?


Perhaps not. His AI lives on.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 10:27am

Have they told Joe that he's withdrawn from the race for President yet?
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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 9:02am

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"I cannot in good conscience continue," the acting president said as her husband wandered around somewhere backstage.

Well, gerontocracy on the outside and the inside can choose any puppet.



When you use an insurrection, anything is possible.


Dems Pull Off Successful Insurrection



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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 8:56am

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"I cannot in good conscience continue," the acting president said as her husband wandered around somewhere backstage.

Well, gerontocracy on the outside and the inside can choose any puppet.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2024 - 8:49am


Jill Biden Drops Out Of Presidential Race



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Posted: Jul 21, 2024 - 7:56pm

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It’s a good test to see how someone like Biden can stand up against a bullying lying opponent. Apparently, not very well. And there’s no way we’re going to assume that leaders of other countries are going to kowtow to him so it is, as we feared, a set up for failure in negotiation. Even though he might have “a cold.”



Biden held his own during the first debate with Trump in 2020. That was the one where Joe yelled, "Would you shut up, man?!?" 

Trump tried the same bulldozing tactic in 2020. Chris Christie coached him for that debate to keep interrupting Joe in order to get him to stammer. That debate was largely a standoff. Someone on CNN I think called it "a shitshow" right after it ended. 

Joe was just worn out in '24. Granted he had a grueling schedule but what made me wish for his withdrawal were clips from the '24 debate, the fact that he'd had a week at Camp David to prepare and the stark contrast of his performance against Trump with that against Paul Ryan in 2012:
Yes, he's 12 years older. But I think Joe is dealing with a neurological issue...maybe something like Parkinson's. 

Joe is a damned good man and for my money a damned good president. He just ran out of gas. Even in his present state, however, he's far more lucid, intelligent and sane than Trump. 
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Posted: Jul 21, 2024 - 6:18pm

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It's happening. via Mark Halperin



Live now.


Welp.  Looks like Halperin's scoop/leak was almost 100% spot on.  And as speculated, Joe would dropout on the weekend.  And here we are.

Interesting times we live in.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2024 - 5:17pm

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Thanks for this—either I'd forgotten or never knew.

But you then have to ask: why have the debate at all if the only fact-checking occurs after the debate when most people have tuned out? A debate without fact-checking or consequences for lying turns into garbage attempts at shocking and smearing people. It's all spectacle and no substance—great for Trump because that pretty much defines him but horrible for the country's attempt to choose a leader. 

Maybe it's possible to Gish-gallop Trump more than he does it to his opponent. But at that point, we're pretty damn near complete Idiocracy. 



It’s a good test to see how someone like Biden can stand up against a bullying lying opponent. Apparently, not very well. And there’s no way we’re going to assume that leaders of other countries are going to kowtow to him so it is, as we feared, a set up for failure in negotiation. Even though he might have “a cold.”

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Posted: Jul 21, 2024 - 5:12pm

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I just sent an email to President Biden, thanking him for his service to this nation.




That's very kind of you, Antigone. I was just reading in the newspaper today that Joe felt under-appreciated and patronized by people in his own party. His decision has to be a bitter pill for him to swallow. 

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Posted: Jul 21, 2024 - 4:29pm


I just sent an email to President Biden, thanking him for his service to this nation.



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Posted: Jul 21, 2024 - 4:14pm

 Steely_D wrote:

They were moderators, not fact-checkers. They said that they would intentionally not be doing the latter role. From Politifact: "The network said before the June 27 debate that the moderators would not challenge the candidates over their accuracy."

So that's frustrating, but it's how they played that particular debate and not a failure on their part.


Thanks for this—either I'd forgotten or never knew.

But you then have to ask: why have the debate at all if the only fact-checking occurs after the debate when most people have tuned out? A debate without fact-checking or consequences for lying turns into garbage attempts at shocking and smearing people. It's all spectacle and no substance—great for Trump because that pretty much defines him but horrible for the country's attempt to choose a leader. 

Maybe it's possible to Gish-gallop Trump more than he does it to his opponent. But at that point, we're pretty damn near complete Idiocracy. 

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