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It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Aha-ahh
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
Yoohoo-ooh
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
Yoohoo-ooh
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Vladimir Putin must be forced to listen to this song 24 hours a day! This could make this earth a better place, i hope.
Vlad and many more like him, sadly. The world is ruled by terrified little boys wearing big scary man masks.
fuck it
i mean, this is a 10
who votes less on this?
Somebody who don't know about music. I see 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 ☹️
Couldn't have said it better.
And if I could, I didn't.
But, we must never give up. There is hope, just imagine.
Vladimir Putin must be forced to listen to this song 24 hours a day! This could make this earth a better place, i hope.
Unfortunately, would not do anything if you're a sociopath (I mean this sincerely).
Imagine no Vladimir Putin . . .
I AGREE!!!
What a Wonderful World then Imagine. Yep. Swaying back and forth in my office chair.
With all due respect, when was the world better?
- Worldwide income is on the rise pretty much everywhere, not just in the west.
- There are fewer poor as % of population than ever. Numbers I’ve seen are that the poverty rates have declined since the early 20th century and significantly over the past 30 years,
- Calorie consumption is increasing and is higher than ever, and not just in the west.
- We are more at peace since 1945, and especially since the collapse of the CCCP, than at any other time in the history of the species. There are some brushfires, yes but it only takes a short walk through history to see that things are pretty calm, comparatively.
- There has been an increasing trend towards representative government which started in the last quarter 18th century, grew after 1918, and accelerated after the collapse of the CCCP.
Granted there are challenges that we must deal with, however if don’t get stupid, or wallow in vapid self-loathing, we should be able to address the current batch of problems and prepare for the next set.
Must be great on your planet. On this one we are increasingly living under the total control of the world government, and we, the lab rats, will "own nothing and be happy". https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
This may be THE most cynical post I have ever read. Focus less on Lennon and more on yourself.
Try focusing more on yourself than someone else's post on RP.
fuck it
i mean, this is a 10
who votes less on this?
I am sick to death of this song.
But I appreciate the message and the simplicity of the song, as well as its significance in music history.
So it "only" gets a 9 from me :)
Plz understand that I don't hate either John Lennon nor you. But I still assert that a tune with the lyrics "Imagine no possessions", written by a billionaire living in in one of NYC's most exclusive apartment buildings is utterly fatuous. Not to mention the insult to literally billions of people on Earth who have NO possessions and desperately need many of them. It still gets a "1" from me.
I believe you are entitled to dislike this song and rate it so low, but your rationale for doing so makes no sense to me.
We would have very few songs about serious subjects if only saints were allowed to compose them.
poverty is shrinking, standards of living are improving around the world
we are trying to clean up our mess (pollution)
we no longer live under the shadow of TOTAL nuclear annihilation
atheists are coming out of the closet
gay marriage--who would ever have predicted that even 10 years ago?
and we have actually done a lot to reduce carbon emissions (I know we have a long long way to go)
we are trying to save endangered species and habitats (never did that before in the last 100,000 years)
it's a good time to be alive
World CO2 emissions are not 'shrinking', they are steadily increasing. In the USA the greatest contributor to CO2 reduction is shale gas (fracking) replacing coal.
Plz understand that I don't hate either John Lennon nor you. But I still assert that a tune with the lyrics "Imagine no possessions", written by a billionaire living in in one of NYC's most exclusive apartment buildings is utterly fatuous. Not to mention the insult to literally billions of people on Earth who have NO possessions and desperately need many of them. It still gets a "1" from me.
This may be THE most cynical post I have ever read. Focus less on Lennon and more on yourself.
No, instead there are insults and threads and general "if you do not think like I think I'll f... kill you" mentality all round!
All here should stop an think for a minute and listen to their own words and then realise, THAT is exactly what's wrong with this world!
And all this under a song like "Imagine"!
It is unbelievable!
One just has to read here and it becomes clear that there will NEVER be peace on this planet. Never. What a shame!
Plz understand that I don't hate either John Lennon nor you. But I still assert that a tune with the lyrics "Imagine no possessions", written by a billionaire living in in one of NYC's most exclusive apartment buildings is utterly fatuous. Not to mention the insult to literally billions of people on Earth who have NO possessions and desperately need many of them. It still gets a "1" from me.
Even before Covid, poverty is NOT shrinking. The transfer of "wealth" is creating even more 'have-nots' and the 'haves' are grinning.
When this crazy concept of infinite growth in our economic policy ends, likely very suddenly and soon, I sure hope we change the focus to a more sustainable resource based economic paradigm.
Good luck to all of us as the shit hits the fan....and remember kindness, respect, love and forgiveness are the traits to be valued above all...esp. money and the accumulation of wealth.
Long Live RP
Hear, hear, friend.
i mean, this is a 10
who votes less on this?
What a mad, insane world! Do we always need tragedy to make us more greatly cherish the blessings? JL is one example of exhibit A for that question.
poverty is shrinking, standards of living are improving around the world
we are trying to clean up our mess (pollution)
we no longer live under the shadow of TOTAL nuclear annihilation
atheists are coming out of the closet
gay marriage--who would ever have predicted that even 10 years ago?
and we have actually done a lot to reduce carbon emissions (I know we have a long long way to go)
we are trying to save endangered species and habitats (never did that before in the last 100,000 years)
it's a good time to be alive
Even before Covid, poverty is NOT shrinking. The transfer of "wealth" is creating even more 'have-nots' and the 'haves' are grinning.
When this crazy concept of infinite growth in our economic policy ends, likely very suddenly and soon, I sure hope we change the focus to a more sustainable resource based economic paradigm.
Good luck to all of us as the shit hits the fan....and remember kindness, respect, love and forgiveness are the traits to be valued above all...esp. money and the accumulation of wealth.
Long Live RP
poverty is shrinking, standards of living are improving around the world
we are trying to clean up our mess (pollution)
we no longer live under the shadow of TOTAL nuclear annihilation
atheists are coming out of the closet
gay marriage--who would ever have predicted that even 10 years ago?
and we have actually done a lot to reduce carbon emissions (I know we have a long long way to go)
we are trying to save endangered species and habitats (never did that before in the last 100,000 years)
it's a good time to be alive
Society is increasingly polarized, economic inequality is rising, humans are destroying all other living species on earth.
- Worldwide income is on the rise pretty much everywhere, not just in the west.
- There are fewer poor as % of population than ever. Numbers I’ve seen are that the poverty rates have declined since the early 20th century and significantly over the past 30 years,
- Calorie consumption is increasing and is higher than ever, and not just in the west.
- We are more at peace since 1945, and especially since the collapse of the CCCP, than at any other time in the history of the species. There are some brushfires, yes but it only takes a short walk through history to see that things are pretty calm, comparatively.
- There has been an increasing trend towards representative government which started in the last quarter 18th century, grew after 1918, and accelerated after the collapse of the CCCP.
Granted there are challenges that we must deal with, however if don’t get stupid, or wallow in vapid self-loathing, we should be able to address the current batch of problems and prepare for the next set.
Unfortunately with all that economic growth there has been a corresponding decline in empathy compassion and love. I can remember a time when to suggest that you don't help a man out was to be condemned to sin bin.
- Мировой доход растет почти везде, а не только на западе.
-% бедного населения меньше, чем когда-либо. Цифры, которые я видел, показывают, что уровень бедности снизился с начала 20-го века и значительно за последние 30 лет,
- потребление калорий растет и выше, чем когда-либо, и не только на западе.
- Мы более спокойны с 1945 года, особенно после распада CCCP, чем когда-либо в истории этого вида. Да, есть некоторые пожары, но история быстро проходит, чтобы увидеть, что все относительно спокойно, сравнительно.
- Возросла тенденция к представительному правительству, которое началось в последней четверти 18-го века, выросло после 1918 года и ускорилось после распада CCCP.
Конечно, есть проблемы, с которыми мы должны иметь дело, однако, если мы не станем глупыми или погрязнем в бессильной ненависти к себе, мы сможем решить текущий набор проблем и подготовиться к следующему набору.
За спокойствие после 1945 вы должны сказать спасибо СССР. И к слову, СССР никогда никому не нёс угрозы и ни на кого не нападал. А разрушили СССР те, кто не хочет иметь в мире суверенную и сильную страну, а хочет насаждать свою "демократию" везде по средствам военного вторжения в разные страны.
Edit: I'm also reminded of the WKRP episode when a gentleman from a Christian group pressured the station manager to stop playing this song, among others. The manager uncharacteristically stood up for this song. It might have been a lightweight show, but it stood up for the right things. And Merry Christmas, All.
He had his moments of being a dick for sure. Like everyone else in the world. Even you. But underneath it was the man who wrote (with Yoko's help) and sang this.
(Reference: Steven Pinker, Enlightenment Now, Penguin Books, 2018).
poverty is shrinking, standards of living are improving around the world
we are trying to clean up our mess (pollution)
we no longer live under the shadow of TOTAL nuclear annihilation
atheists are coming out of the closet
gay marriage--who would ever have predicted that even 10 years ago?
and we have actually done a lot to reduce carbon emissions (I know we have a long long way to go)
we are trying to save endangered species and habitats (never did that before in the last 100,000 years)
it's a good time to be alive
The world? I thought it was just the USA that was drifting into madness.....
The world will always have madness. Some decades it's more, some decades it's less. Humans are a roller coaster of indecision and conflict.
No, instead there are insults and threads and general "if you do not think like I think I'll f... kill you" mentality all round!
All here should stop an think for a minute and listen to their own words and then realise, THAT is exactly what's wrong with this world!
And all this under a song like "Imagine"!
It is unbelievable!
One just has to read here and it becomes clear that there will NEVER be peace on this planet. Never. What a shame!
Couldn't have said it better.
And if I could, I didn't.
ad hominem alert.
Try to listen to the words. No sucko. No barfo.
Just listen and try to imagine.
- Worldwide income is on the rise pretty much everywhere, not just in the west.
- There are fewer poor as % of population than ever. Numbers I’ve seen are that the poverty rates have declined since the early 20th century and significantly over the past 30 years,
- Calorie consumption is increasing and is higher than ever, and not just in the west.
- We are more at peace since 1945, and especially since the collapse of the CCCP, than at any other time in the history of the species. There are some brushfires, yes but it only takes a short walk through history to see that things are pretty calm, comparatively.
- There has been an increasing trend towards representative government which started in the last quarter 18th century, grew after 1918, and accelerated after the collapse of the CCCP.
Granted there are challenges that we must deal with, however if don’t get stupid, or wallow in vapid self-loathing, we should be able to address the current batch of problems and prepare for the next set.
when I read all the postings here.....
poor John...he really was a dreamer...
And I'm sure Clear Channel will ban it again when the war with Korea starts. That earlier banning (re: war on terrorism) shows that the corporate heads Lennon was directing his criticism at understood the dangers of inspiration.
I don't think corporate heads are the problem. Blood-thirsty, ethnic-cleansing terrorist supporting American voters are the problem.
But if it inspires others to imagine a different world, it works for me.
And I'm sure Clear Channel will ban it again when the war with Korea starts. That earlier banning (re: war on terrorism) shows that the corporate heads Lennon was directing his criticism at understood the dangers of inspiration.
that's ripping good OTB!!!
Pat, why you callin' yourself Dave?
lizardking wrote:
Lazarus - where have you been? I haven't seen a post from you in a month or two.....hope you're OK right this second and enjoying life.
Long Live RP!
Bill must be at the DMV or something cause that is the same today.
Socialist, godless drivel.
I'll see your "Socialist, godless" and raise you Communist Atheistic
Lazarus - where have you been? I haven't seen a post from you in a month or two.....hope you're OK right this second and enjoying life.
Long Live RP!
a song that could change the world
if we could let it
Absolutely.
What a world we would have.
Amen, brother. I hear that 110%.
Still, the song is a vision of Utopia.
I'll settle for reliable civility and a major decline in ethnocentric noise. We can all go from there.
Cheers, but actually it is not brother, mate, if at all, it is sister!
Amen, brother. I hear that 110%.
Still, the song is a vision of Utopia.
I'll settle for reliable civility and a major decline in ethnocentric noise. We can all go from there.
Our differences are our strength and our weakness.
No, instead there are insults and threads and general "if you do not think like I think I'll f... kill you" mentality all round!
All here should stop an think for a minute and listen to their own words and then realise, THAT is exactly what's wrong with this world!
And all this under a song like "Imagine"!
It is unbelievable!
One just has to read here and it becomes clear that there will NEVER be peace on this planet. Never. What a shame!
Amen, brother. I hear that 110%.
Still, the song is a vision of Utopia.
I'll settle for reliable civility and a major decline in ethnocentric noise. We can all go from there.
No, instead there are insults and threads and general "if you do not think like I think I'll f... kill you" mentality all round!
All here should stop an think for a minute and listen to their own words and then realise, THAT is exactly what's wrong with this world!
And all this under a song like "Imagine"!
It is unbelievable!
One just has to read here and it becomes clear that there will NEVER be peace on this planet. Never. What a shame!
Socialist, godless drivel.
And another great band name!
a song that could change the world
if we could let it
(2,755.46 mi. due east of Paradise)
After this day, I wish I could.
You believe I insulted you by pointing out that insulting someone in a complaint about that same someone insulting you is projection? My, you do have a low threshold for feeling insulted.
Have you insulted anyone first? (I can only assume you mean prior to this post.) Perhaps not directly, but (as you wrote elsewhere) "many of the Radio Paradise listeners must be oblivious to what is truly great music" is pretty condescending, if not outright insulting, and casts a very wide net. And when you start lobbing firebombs about a song like "Imagine" that so many like so much, you're going to get strong reactions. That you came in looking for a fight is an unavoidable conclusion.
As for your adolescent chest beating ... well, I shouldn't be hard to find, especially for someone of such obvious intellectual capabilities. You'll have to forgive me, though, if I don't hold my breath. Or to put it another way, get over yourself.
By the way, do you always sign your posts "asshole"? (And why won't you spell it out?)
If I feel that a song is bad,such as the aforementioned "Imagine" and is not just an overrated song-but a bad one at that;and if people collectively overrate this while underrating other far more worthy songs-then I will call out "The Naked Emperor." In another post,a poster noted that many people's ratings seem influenced by nostalgia. While this poster ..."resists the urge to criticize" other people's ratings,I do feel offended that some musicians get a free pass simply based on their reputation. It is like the "A" student who turns in a very poor assignment but gets another "A" anyways based on his prior scholarly achievements. Listen to "Across the Universe" to grasp how well Mr.Lennon could express similar sentiments MUCH better musically and lyrically.OH,and I don't spell out vulgarity on a public forum visible to anybody.I do believe that the monitors do have a policy(obviously unenforced) regarding ad hominem attacks and vulgarity.
Have you ever looked up the word "projection"?
You believe I insulted you by pointing out that insulting someone in a complaint about that same someone insulting you is projection? My, you do have a low threshold for feeling insulted.
Have you insulted anyone first? (I can only assume you mean prior to this post.) Perhaps not directly, but (as you wrote elsewhere) "many of the Radio Paradise listeners must be oblivious to what is truly great music" is pretty condescending, if not outright insulting, and casts a very wide net. And when you start lobbing firebombs about a song like "Imagine" that so many like so much, you're going to get strong reactions. That you came in looking for a fight is an unavoidable conclusion.
As for your adolescent chest beating ... well, I shouldn't be hard to find, especially for someone of such obvious intellectual capabilities. You'll have to forgive me, though, if I don't hold my breath. Or to put it another way, get over yourself.
By the way, do you always sign your posts "asshole"? (And why won't you spell it out?)
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Bill G. can you simply delete these rants?
Funny because you gave a rating of 10 to 4 Beatles' songs.
and exactly what does one have to do with the other?
Let me help. The answer is "Nothing!"
Have you ever looked up the word "projection"?
dc - it's about time for your daily BM isn't it? Oh wait...you just took one. AAAAhhhh - do you feel better now?
News flash COSMO..Without THE 'BE-A-TULS' the rest of the musicians you named wouldn't exist.
Now...itsn't it about time for you to head back to the bathroom?
Ah yes ASS____,I just had my BM and vomit session,after hearing your horribly overrated,sniveling John Lennon caterwaul his preschool level philosophy on "Imagine." If you would bother to actually read the above mentioned post which you are vituperating on,I am simply pointing out that mass popularity and musical quality are not necessarily the same thing-as shown by the many researchable examples I have given.Simply being the progenitor of certain musical styles-and that is a very debatable point where the Beatles are concerned-does not automatically make you better than those artists you have supposedly influenced.The Beatles were great,but were also overrated.Their solo careers demonstrated for the most part that they needed each other. Of course,by the kindergarten level of your unthinking retort,you demonstrate your limited IQ and musical perspective.
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dc - it's about time for your daily BM isn't it? Oh wait...you just took one. AAAAhhhh - do you feel better now?
News flash COSMO..Without THE 'BE-A-TULS' the rest of the musicians you named wouldn't exist.
Now...itsn't it about time for you to head back to the bathroom?
Have you ever looked up the word "projection"?
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And we know your opinion has real heft since you used the word patchouli.
what's so funny about peace love and understanding?
Well, yes then. Yes, I am.
Great band name, by the way.
Amen,Amen Amen.A horrible and horribly overrated song.
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"only people make you cry"
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is all hope lost?
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yes.
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Nonsense - great replies from Phlattop and JohnJamesMullin
As someone who - eventually - ditched my wife but never my kid to find my true soulmate I relate to John's experience of a too young marriage. Yes - he had wealth, but it didnt make him happy. Yes - living far afield he didnt always/often do right by Julian - but he tried to make up for it later - directly with Julian and through his - unfortunately - ever so brief time with Sean.
And yeah - rich folks who also happen to be genius level artists = and got rich through their art by the way - are what - supposed to become uber defenders of the capiatlist, religiocentric, establishment. Hardly.
As someone whos father left his mother, I can't begin to tell you the impact such thing can have on a kid.
Just because someone is good at music (or something else) doesn't mean that someone has good ideas about how others (or themselves) can attain happiness. Lennon was a very good musician but his "ideas" are very sht in my opinion, and the fact that he didn't seem to realize the practical limitations of his ideas (not everyone lives in a mansion and can have sleep ins in the hilton) only adds to that.
The majority of listeners here disagree. And, as your angry post demonstrates, you don't get it; hence, part of the problem. Peace, dennis_chary, you could use some.
This song is no "Biko", or Edwin Starr's "War". There's no call to action, it's fluff. Nothing substantive to get behind. Maybe it's one of those, "You had to be there" things.
"What? - nail 'im up with the rest of 'em"
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"Life can make you prisoner,
and the plains can bake you dry,
Snow can burn your eyes,
but only people make you cry"
.(Wandering Star (from Paint Your Wagon) sung by Lee Marvin)
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Lets face it, as a species, as a planet - we're all doomed.
oh well try & enjoy the ride while it lasts eh?
So you want to gouge Lennon's eyes out for imagining a better world?
That's beyond sad.
Sounds like you need to get your head out of the proverbial ass and stop whining so much No wonder the world is in the shape it's in populated by such as you.. Oh and I gave it a 10. don't get mad now.
yeah, imagine that...
Nonsense - great replies from Phlattop and JohnJamesMullin
As someone who - eventually - ditched my wife but never my kid to find my true soulmate I relate to John's experience of a too young marriage. Yes - he had wealth, but it didnt make him happy. Yes - living far afield he didnt always/often do right by Julian - but he tried to make up for it later - directly with Julian and through his - unfortunately - ever so brief time with Sean.
And yeah - rich folks who also happen to be genius level artists = and got rich through their art by the way - are what - supposed to become uber defenders of the capiatlist, religiocentric, establishment. Hardly.
Now that is funny.
Still a 10. Always at the top of my list.
Socialist, godless drivel.
"godless", yes, "socialist", certainly not, and I write that as a socialist of many decades. The vague utopia yer man sings of is an expression of liberal idealism, not unrelated to many hippie-style communes that sprung up back in the 70s and 80s, or indeed various religious communes that have no conception of individual property. For socialist agitprop, reach for The Clash.