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He was a friend that I could not reach
He thought I was cold but I understand
But for the grace of god goes another man
And I may just waste away from doing nothing
But you're a martyr for even less, for even less, for even less
A choirboy is buried on the moor
Where we used to go dreaming when we were bored
Some kids are best left to fend for themselves
And others were born to stack shelves
And I may just waste away from doing nothing
But you're a martyr for even less, for even less, for even less
For even less
Never heard In Absentia? Oh man, are you ever in for a treat! You need to get this album asap, one of their best ever!
Thank You. I will check it out.
Glad they're back together.
Never heard In Absentia? Oh man, are you ever in for a treat! You need to get this album asap, one of their best ever!
oh Porcupine Tree - please come back to me...
This is your year then!
oh Porcupine Tree - please come back to me...
I guess they listened :)
oh Porcupine Tree - please come back to me...
Well, it looks like all the praying and wishing actually worked!
Planning on catching PT in concert later this year?
Just went to look at the list of PT songs on on RP.
There are many more PT songs on RP that I haven't heard yet.
And I have to admit that I spend an inordinate of time on this lovely music stream.
Which is another reason I am also a monthly contributor. How about you?
You talking to me?? Yes, I have been sending $10 each month for at least several years. And Porcupine Tree is a major reason for this habit.
There are many more PT songs on RP that I haven't heard yet.
And I have to admit that I spend an inordinate of time on this lovely music stream.
Which is another reason I am also a monthly contributor. How about you?
There is a 14 minute version of Even Less on the Recordings EP released in 2001. The evolution in the lyrics of this song is what I find most interesting.
Well that bunny suit is what you wear in a clean room where in this case semiconductors are being manufactured.
There is a 14 minute version of Even Less on the Recordings EP released in 2001. The evolution in the lyrics of this song is what I find most interesting.
The original long version has lyrics that make more sense, basically challenging the concept of god. Best line for the longer version is "Fuck you and your book too" referring to the bible. And the line "A choir boy is buried on the moor" I believe refers to a kid who was 1) probably molested by a priest, or 2) that a perfectly well behaved godly choir boy still gets murdered/killed, so where is god to protect him? Lastly, I think "But you're a martyr for even less" is directed towards Jesus.
And on a more uplifting note, this is the PT song I can most clearly hear the Gilmour guitar playing influence.
Long Version Lyrics:
He was a friend that I could not reach
He thought I was cold but I understand
But for the grace of God goes another man
And I may just waste away from doing nothing
But you're a martyr for even less
A choir boy is buried on the moors
Where we used to go dreaming when we were bored
Some kids are best left to fend for themselves
And others were born to stack shelves
And I may just waste away from doing nothing
But you're a martyr for even less
For even less...
Fuck you and your book too, you can
You can have it back
When I'm gone these songs will be
Will be my tracks
And I had a stupid dream that I could change things
But I'm a martyr to even less
To even less...
I hate the ground that I have walked upon
Nothing I've done has ever mattered long
There is a 14 minute version of Even Less on the Recordings EP released in 2001. The evolution in the lyrics of this song is what I find most interesting.
That's the reason I keep coming back to RP for long-term listening.
Just happened again! Obviously a favourite trick of theirs and truly a god combo.
You need to buy the album. One of the best PT.
"And I may just waste away from doing nothing
But you're a martyr for even less, for even less, for even less "
The singer also exclaims that he might be cold; and baby that's about as cold a statement as a person can make isn't it? Cold as it gets. Brrrrr. A complete smack-down on anyone engaged in that rarefied art of self-pity.
Yet so true. Nobody get's outta here alive, so while we play this game called Life each and every one of us players must find our own way. Or not.
So it goes.
Highlow
American Net'Zen
That's probably ten years ago...
I'm still gratefull!
You bet.... just the other way around for me!
RP onto PT = HC (happy chappie)
Thanks Bill and Rebecca
That's probably ten years ago...
I'm still gratefull!
That's the reason I keep coming back to RP for long-term listening.
Fing ya, man.
That numbers station. I listen endlessly, hoping that someday I will understand the message and that when I do it will be for me.
westslope wrote:
That is Steven Wilson on lead guitar. Steven Wilson can also sometimes sound like Steve Howe of Yes or Andrew Latimer of Camel. Sometimes he just sounds like Steven Wilson.
This is bombastic prog rock at its best. I love to hum along with the first few bars.
this very cool group & many other artists. I count my blessings!
Even More so.....Even More So....
I think I can see why he changed the lyrics.
A body is washed up on a norfolk beach
Where I used to build castles in the sticky heat
A cyclone destroys an ancient site
A killer strikes twice in one night
But Jesus was crucified for doing nothing
And God is worshiped for even less
A choir boy is buried on the moor
A nine-year-old is forced to be a whore
Some kids are best left to fend for themselves
And others are born to stack shelves
But Jesus was crucified for doing nothing
And God is worshiped for even less
Sometimes I wander and forget myself
I'm just escaping while I stack these shelves
But Jesus was crucified for doing nothing
And God is worshiped for even less
A mid-50's friend of my had just succumbed to alcoholism after battling with it for most of his adult life.
We both had tears in our eyes at the end of the song. Yet we were also somewhat uplifted by the fact that this song had captured what we were feeling at the time. It was a moment when music spoke to us about ann event in our lives.
I will forever think of my friend Dan whenever I hear this song.
I lost my mother to alcohol, so I can relate a bit. After reading the lyrics, your story is that much more amazing. Isn't it funny how the right song seems to come along at just the right time?
A mid-50's friend of my had just succumbed to alcoholism after battling with it for most of his adult life.
We both had tears in our eyes at the end of the song. Yet we were also somewhat uplifted by the fact that this song had captured what we were feeling at the time. It was a moment when music spoke to us about ann event in our lives.
I will forever think of my friend Dan whenever I hear this song.
That is Steven Wilson on lead guitar. Steven Wilson can also sometimes sound like Steve Howe of Yes or Andrew Latimer of Camel. Sometimes he just sounds like Steven Wilson.
This is bombastic prog rock at its best. I love to hum along with the first few bars.
I discovered Porcupine Tree through RP, and it's one of the reasons I hang out here. Almost any PT, any time... You can go pick your own personal musical poison on Pandora if you like...
And, for the record, I wouldn't object to some Styx or Journey either.
yes, and this fact isn't wrong at all. The band deserves it
You will never hear this on FM radio.
How about you turn on your FM...
For bold, brassy bombastic prog, it does not get any better. The writing is stellar.
I just put the headphones on for this one.
Yes! Really like this tune. I saw them open for Coheed and Cambria here a couple of years ago, a terrible match which the band called out up front, apologizing for not being a band to slam dance to. They played a good set, but left me wanting to see them where they had there own show. I could imagine some great visuals to go with the thoughtful music and those big prog rock hooks.
Yes please, even less.......please.
"....but you're a martyr for even less...."
Closure issues you think?
Interesting comment.
Angry? No. Frustrated, helpless? Yes.
So weird that that big guitar riff feels so familiar, yet I really don't know Porcupine Tree except for a couple of *other* tunes that play on RP.
I feel really good about all the positive comments here and the high rating, as I really dig this
...yeah, now and then I have the weakness to enjoy it when lots of people share my taste...
Freaky I used to listen and record this station when I was young. Always wondering who was on the other end pumping numbers, not realising that it must have been a tape. And always wondering what hidden message was underneath in this age of cold war.
As a former shortwave DX'er the numbers station readout also appeals to me.
Backfield was the other band Steve Wilson has had music project with among a few others..This vid is a cool introductory for Blackfield for anyone who is just starting to discover Porcupine Tree and enjoys Steve Wilson's many talents. Cheers!
There are 12 Blackfield songs and 6 Steven Wilson solo songs on the RP playlist, in addition to the 53 PT songs.
Backfield was the other band Steve Wilson has had music project with among a few others..This vid is a cool introductory for Blackfield for anyone who is just starting to discover Porcupine Tree and enjoys Steve Wilson's many talents. Cheers!
I LOVE THIS PLACE!!! :D
I would be unjust to music in general if I was to rate this any less than a rare 10.
I saw Wilsons Hand.Cannot.Erase tour recently. He deserves credit for his ongoing work.
Ditto, my first SW show and worth waiting for, though I wish I'd seen PT several times in the 2000's.
10 it is.
Ditto
I would be unjust to music in general if I was to rate this any less than a rare 10.
I saw Wilsons Hand.Cannot.Erase tour recently. He deserves credit for his ongoing work.
Fun stuff.
this end of song is point to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire_Poacher_(numbers_station) :)
Freaky I used to listen and record this station when I was young. Always wondering who was on the other end pumping numbers, not realising that it must have been a tape. And always wondering what hidden message was underneath in this age of cold war.
this end of song is point to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire_Poacher_(numbers_station) :)
Hmmmm......I just learned something I didn't know. Thanks for that....and it actually makes the song a bit more poignant there at the end. This probably being the whole point?
Highlow
American Net'Zen
this end of song is point to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire_Poacher_(numbers_station) :)
Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of the significance
Goes on too long.
I agree - there's something really creepy about that woman's tone of voice, too.
Goes on too long.
this end of song is point to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire_Poacher_(numbers_station) :)
Goes on too long.
Yes, so was I in my teens. (For kids of the Net generation reading, SW was the only semi-reliable way of international broadcasting in the pre-Internet days, hence its use by spies.) Back in the Cold War days, SW radio was...interesting, to say the least. My favourite was Radio Tirana, from the seriously weird and extremely repressive and isolationist Albania (Enver Hoxha's Albania made North Korea seem like a beacon of openness and rationality), which had some pretty 'idiosyncratic' takes on world events many of which were unintentionally comic. Like ROTFL, dude :o)
I still have a SW radio at home, though it only has a couple of bands. I must crank it up again to see what remains on the airwaves.
Even Less has even more than most tunes!
LOL! The lyrics are a nice original comment on futility all the same. Futility: one of Steven Wilson's repeating themes.
"....but you're a martyr for even less...."
Closure issues you think?
Even Less has even more than most tunes!
Beastie wrote:
I "pay it forward" by recommending RP to everyone interested in music through the Internet. Long Live Radio Paradise!
Rockit wrote:
this very cool group & many other artists. I count my blessings!
Don't know why it's not in iTunes Store but you can get it on Amazon (although the cover differs) or SoundsBox.
Wilson isn't fond of iTunes/downloads etc.
I "pay it forward" by recommending RP to everyone interested in music through the Internet. Long Live Radio Paradise!
Rockit wrote:
this very cool group & many other artists. I count my blessings!
Don't know why it's not in iTunes Store but you can get it on Amazon (although the cover differs) or SoundsBox.
Yes, so was I in my teens. (For kids of the Net generation reading, SW was the only semi-reliable way of international broadcasting in the pre-Internet days, hence its use by spies.) Back in the Cold War days, SW radio was...interesting, to say the least. My favourite was Radio Tirana, from the seriously weird and extremely repressive and isolationist Albania (Enver Hoxha's Albania made North Korea seem like a beacon of openness and rationality), which had some pretty 'idiosyncratic' takes on world events many of which were unintentionally comic. Like ROTFL, dude :o)
I still have a SW radio at home, though it only has a couple of bands. I must crank it up again to see what remains on the airwaves.
Once upon a time in the late 1970s I stuck my thumb out over a 5 year period and managed to cover a good chunk of South America and Africa. The coolest ex-pats always had SW radios. The coolest local intellectuals always had SW radios.
I'll bet big money--C$100K--that 'spies' are still using SW radio. Safer and more reliable than other techniques that are easily monitored.
this very cool group & many other artists. I count my blessings!
Ja!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvr6o7fBcTY
Yes, so was I in my teens. (For kids of the Net generation reading, SW was the only semi-reliable way of international broadcasting in the pre-Internet days, hence its use by spies.) Back in the Cold War days, SW radio was...interesting, to say the least. My favourite was Radio Tirana, from the seriously weird and extremely repressive and isolationist Albania (Enver Hoxha's Albania made North Korea seem like a beacon of openness and rationality), which had some pretty 'idiosyncratic' takes on world events many of which were unintentionally comic. Like ROTFL, dude :o)
I still have a SW radio at home, though it only has a couple of bands. I must crank it up again to see what remains on the airwaves.
See Wikipedia, then have a listen at Numbers Stations. I'd not heard of them before listening to this track then someone commenting on the audio clips at the end. Go back a page or two in the comments and you'll see.
Hard to find but well worth it lots of extended versions, jams and demos.
What do those numbers mean the woman speaks in the outro of the song?