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Jethro Tull — With You There to Help Me
Album: Benefit
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7

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Released: 1970
Length: 6:15
Plays (last 30 days): 2
In days of peace --
Sweet smelling summer nights
Of wine and song;
Dusty pavements burning feet.
Why am I crying, I want to know.
How can I smile and make it right?
For sixty days and eighty nights
And not give in and lose the fight.

I'm going back to the ones that I know,
With whom I can be what I want to be.
Just one week for the feeling to go --
And with you there to help me
Then it probably will.

I won't go down
Acting the same old play.
Give sixty days for just one night.
Don't think I'd make it: but then I might.

I'm going back to the ones that I know,
With whom I can be what I want to be.
Just one week for the feeling to go --
And with you there to help me
Then it probably will.
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I enjoy their music, this song included, but it all sounds the same.  The flute is always enjoyable and sadly lacking in much of rock music.
It's  terrible.  Please stop.
Saw them in Kiel, Germany, in 20xy?, and Andersen, standing as usual on one leg the whole time, playing his cross flute. Try this for only five " -
Incredible band, rock solid from the first album.
 pinto wrote:

And they were absolutely AWESOME in concert back in the day.


I saw them in '79, front row, and thought I was late finding them then. They did, indeed, put on a magnificent show.
my best friend in the 6th grade gave me Paul McCartney's 1st solo album for my birthday and sadly didn't understand why I didn't want to switch out for Benefit after. Wasn't to do with Tull or the album, or others she offered (she had a lot of great albums). I simply didn't give away gifts - this was something a person who didn't have a lot of her own things couldn't explain to someone who had anything she wanted.
Nobody else is quite like them. 
I'd love to hear a straight lift of Ian Anderson's vocal on this track laid over something written by Maynard James Keenan...I feel like they are kindred spirits for some reason...

 smartn1 wrote:

what other group does hard rock flute?




Focus!   Both groups do a great job of hard rock flute!   
GREAT TUNE!  My favorite Tull album.  Thanx RP!   
 motobecane wrote:

" I'll be honest.. fellas, it was sounding great. But.. I could've used a little more flute. So.. let's take it again..."


..."nevermind, i'll just overdub it backwards. you'll see, it'll blow yer mind"
what other group does hard rock flute?
OMG this just went up to a 7 for me. so good.
I often come to comment on how good a bass line is.

But damn, ALL OF THIS is just awesome!

I cut my rock and roll teeth on this album somewhere around 4th grade.
I love the way this song seems to change tempo throughout, but it actually doesn't.
Great song
Great album
 NickDanger wrote:

I was just about to make the same comment! That Jethro Tull hasn't been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is wrong. Not to denigrate any other artists (even though I do), but come on!


They should have been let in based on "Thick as a Brick" alone.
Yes sir I love it.  Their best album imo
 rumplestiltskin wrote:

I am a Tull fan, no apologies. This is the first album of theirs I heard, and it took me a couple of listens to understand the appeal, but this song is what convinced me this was a great band indeed. Play more Tull!!!!



Benefit put them on the map to stay IMHO.
 ExpatLarry wrote:

Jeeze. I was introduced to this album when I was in the sixth grade by the kid across the street who was a freshman in high school, who was introduced to it by his older brothers. Is this the album that they 'popped up' when you opened it? I sure got a good musical education from those kids.
p.s.
real music lovers know better than to worry about who is in the 'rockandrollhalloffame'. It means nothing.



That would have been Stand Up, I believe. As I recall, I gave it away when I left home. In some hindsight, this band was quite good for a while. The era when this showed up was a time when the music coming out had a freshness that's not much in evidence today. Maybe an ole farts' perspective, but objectively the continued bursts of creativity in the the late 60s to early-mid 70s was unique. Anyway, by my standard of objectivity, subjectively viewed.
Awesome
 pinto wrote:

And they were absolutely AWESOME in concert back in the day.

Yes.   Sober, tight, disciplined, high energy.  One of the best from the period where in hindsight many of the concerts were mediocre or just plain awful.  

I always knew when a concert sucked back then because I simply wanted to smoke more hashish or weed to smooth the concert's rough edges.  
 thewiseking wrote:

Their absence from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where Janet Jackson is a member renders the place useless. Hall of Shame.



Whaaat?Even Yoda likes it....&ct=g
Jeeze. I was introduced to this album when I was in the sixth grade by the kid across the street who was a freshman in high school, who was introduced to it by his older brothers. Is this the album that they 'popped up' when you opened it? I sure got a good musical education from those kids.
p.s.
real music lovers know better than to worry about who is in the 'rockandrollhalloffame'. It means nothing.
I have to pause RP and play my best of Moody Blues Album. 
Nice segue, Bill:

Foo Fighters "My Hero" --> this.
 thewiseking wrote:

Their absence from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where Janet Jackson is a member renders the place useless. Hall of Shame.



Probably because the RnR HoF judges died from extreme case of boredom after hearing a single Jethro Dull tune.
 thewiseking wrote:

Their absence from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where Janet Jackson is a member renders the place useless. Hall of Shame.




they are the best hevey metal band of all time (wink wink  nod nod)
that Jethro can really play his flute
 loopbitz wrote:


Jethro Tull - Back To The Family
Jethro Tull - Baker Street Muse
Jethro Tull - Beggar's Farm
...
Jethro Tull - Witches promise
Jethro Tull - Wond'ring aloud

 
Alphabetic?

Pfff.
More Tull Please?!! Perhaps from Heavy Horses?
I see London with this song. Umbelieveble!
Random Tull musing: What if they'd been born... wait for it... Florida Man instead?! 
I was introduced to Aqualung when it came out in 71 - I was 11. I didn't start exploring the Tull catalogue until I was in college in 79 and this album became the soundtrack for that first year, with this song summing up my weekend voyages home.
 thewiseking wrote:
Their absence from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where Janet Jackson is a member renders the place useless. They should pave the place.
 
I was just about to make the same comment! That Jethro Tull hasn't been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is wrong. Not to denigrate any other artists (even though I do), but come on!
Their absence from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where Janet Jackson is a member renders the place useless. Hall of Shame.
 Fiji5555 wrote:

Opinions are like assholes blah blah blah etc.....having got that out of the way here's mine..... Most of Tull was great and still continues to be so. Aqualung wasn't over rated, it was loved for good reason as was Benifit. Punk sure hasn't held up very well and for good reason.
 
  It depends on one's perspective I guess.  There are still hundreds of successful "punk rock" bands all over the world, and new ones starting all the time, so it appears to be "holding up" quite well, regardless of anyone's opinions or "reasons".
I like Jethro Tull since they exist{#Whistle}
 strous wrote:
More Tull please. Great!

 
Yes, Tull has some lyrics that can be meaningful to some people if they listen. Thanks RP, you are as great as my friend promised!
More Tull please. Great!
...saw them at Seattle Center (space needle) in '69 or early 70 right after Benefit was released.
I had loved them before, Stand UP, etc., still do to this day. Thanks Bill!  Happy Birthday to me.
 Imkirok wrote:
Really wish I would have heard more of JT back in junior high and high school.  All we got was Aqualung and a couple of other top 40 hits.  This is brilliant stuff.

 
Try these while smoking ;-)

Jethro Tull - Back To The Family
Jethro Tull - Baker Street Muse
Jethro Tull - Beggar's Farm
Jethro Tull - Big Dipper
Jethro Tull - Black Sunday
Jethro Tull - Bouree
Jethro Tull - Budapest
Jethro Tull - Bungle In The Jungle
Jethro Tull - Cheap Day Return
Jethro Tull - Cold Wind To Valhalla
Jethro Tull - Cross Eyed Mary
Jethro Tull - Dark Ages
Jethro Tull - Dr. Bogenbroom
Jethro Tull - Dun Ringill
Jethro Tull - Elegy
Jethro Tull - Farm on the Freeway
Jethro Tull - Fat Man
Jethro Tull - Flying Dutchman
Jethro Tull - Grace
Jethro Tull - Home
Jethro Tull - Hymn 43
Jethro Tull - Inside
Jethro Tull - Jack-in-the-Green
Jethro Tull - Jump Start
Jethro Tull - Just trying to be
Jethro Tull - Life is a long song
Jethro Tull - Love story
Jethro Tull - Mother Goose
Jethro Tull - Move On Alone
Jethro Tull - My God
Jethro Tull - North Sea Oil
Jethro Tull - Nothing Is Easy
Jethro Tull - Nursie
Jethro Tull - Old Ghosts
Jethro Tull - One Brown Mouse
Jethro Tull - Orion
Jethro Tull - Pied Piper
Jethro Tull - Reasons For Waiting
Jethro Tull - Said She Was a Dancer
Jethro Tull - Skating Away (On the Thin Ice of a New Day)
Jethro Tull - Slipstream
Jethro Tull - Something´s on the move
Jethro Tull - Song for Jeffrey
Jethro Tull - Songs From The Wood
Jethro Tull - Still Loving You Tonight
Jethro Tull - Teacher
Jethro Tull - The Chequered Flag (Dead Or Alive)
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick Part 1
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick Part 2
Jethro Tull - Too Old To Rock 'n Roll, Too Young To Die
Jethro Tull - Up the 'pool
Jethro Tull - Velvet Green
Jethro Tull - Warm Sporran
Jethro Tull - We Used To Know
Jethro Tull - Wind Up
Jethro Tull - Witches promise
Jethro Tull - Wond'ring aloud
 Imkirok wrote:
Really wish I would have heard more of JT back in junior high and high school.  All we got was Aqualung and a couple of other top 40 hits.  This is brilliant stuff.

 
And they were absolutely AWESOME in concert back in the day.
"I'm going back to the ones that I know,
With whom I can be what I want to be."

Oh hell yes!  Trouble for me is....I never went back.  Not that I've lost any memories of those times.  It's just that when you're looking, and moving, forward on your adventure you never realize, until it's too late, that for the most part the doors you walk thru close and lock after you pass thru.  That's the price of movin' along...

And as Sir Kurt of the Vonnegut clan would say; so it goes...

Highlow
American Net'Zen
 hempmandan wrote:

I have a fever....and the prescription is more flute...I love it too...cuz they make that shit work in a theatrical way that Rocks!!!

 
True dat  : )
Great album, but not the best of songs from it; however still very likeable.
Love the flute on this one ..... Boston Tea Party- '69 ... will be etched in my brain forever!
Fond fond memories of 1970 freshman in college, new music almost daily and this one STILL stays strong after all these years!
 chinaski wrote:
Benefit, Stand Up and Aqualung made my high school life much more bearable.

 
 coloradojohn wrote:
Awesome introspective lyrics, kickass restrained guitar licks, and that unbelievable tripping balls psychedelic flute ~ unmistakably Tull!

 
This sums it up for me! So glad I found my musical path early in these tunes.
Started with This Was and stayed through Too Old To Rock 'n' Roll...
Really wish I would have heard more of JT back in junior high and high school.  All we got was Aqualung and a couple of other top 40 hits.  This is brilliant stuff.
 motobecane wrote:
" I'll be honest.. fellas, it was sounding great. But.. I could've used a little more flute. So.. let's take it again..."

 
I got a fever baby and the only cure is more FLUTE!

 
Awesome introspective lyrics, kickass restrained guitar licks, and that unbelievable tripping balls psychedelic flute ~ unmistakably Tull!
Good memories, starting the 70's. High school
 
Benefit, Stand Up and Aqualung made my high school life much more bearable.
 Prince Pyotr Alexeyevich Kropotkin approves of this song.
Great memories!
Always rating a "10" for all songs played by Tull.  I went in up side down (literally)in a rushed crowd at Hershey Park, PA wherein Tull played "Passion Play."  Luckily, the multiple hits of acid made it all supercalifragislisticexpialidocious.
" I'll be honest.. fellas, it was sounding great. But.. I could've used a little more flute. So.. let's take it again..."
Such a cool song, from an absolutely fantastic year in the Rock Music world... My college room-mates and friends were WAY into this!
9 for the song, 10 for the segue from Godless
Now, that was a gorgeous aural transition, somehow; Godless by the Warhols to this!
OMG - been so long since I have heard this.  I forgot that I liked him sooooo very much.  In fact, from my memories, I didn't think I really liked him. This pulls all that great stuff back - so trippy!
I never really 'got' Jethro Tull, sorry. That bloody flute drives me nuts. lol!  ;-)
This song is fab!
 dennis_chary wrote:
... demonstrating that many of the Radio Paradise listeners must be oblivious to what is truly great music.

 
So you're quite certain it's not you that's oblivious, then?  Because as with wgsu_1978, your musical tastes appear to be a subset of mine.  I am unclear as to how that makes your tastes superior.  Perhaps it's just as simple as "you don't like Jethro Tull" (at least from Aqualung onward).  That sort of thing has been known to happen.
Everytime a JT song ends, I know this is time for me to end my poo break and return to work. Too bad they have so short songs.
 dennis_chary wrote:

I honestly do not no why I should even bother to reply to you since you found it necessary to insult me in a previous post-but here it goes.Most serious music critics recognize the Ramones ,the Clash,Iggy Pop,-both solo and with The Stooges-The Damned,and The Stranglers among many others,as being critically and musically successful Punk and Punk influenced artists.I had the displeasure the other day of listening to the title tack from Aqualung.To me,it has not stood the test of time.Besides being being a lazy Zeppellin riff rip-off(who in turn were Blues and Rock artist plagiarizers.)Ian Anderson has a truly terrible singing voice when he (over)emotes.While the first three Tull ,albums were good to excellent,Aqualung shows an ego-inflated Tull overreaching and coming up way short-a trend which has continued,with the exception of Minstrel in the Gallery-to the present day.

 
I like Tull and most of the punk artists you name, and I find it odd that you can't find it in yourself to do the same. Everything you said about JT is dead wrong, IMO. Why does liking one band/style/era necessarily mean disliking another? My college radio experience spanned Tull, prog and punk, and it helped me to break free of the musical constraints I grew up with. I hope you get a similar opportunity. Because you're here I think there's a good chance.
And during all this time Ian Anderson would have preferred to be farming salmon.....
 Fiji5555 wrote:

Opinions are like assholes blah blah blah etc.....having got that out of the way here's mine..... Most of Tull was great and still continues to be so. Aqualung wasn't over rated, it was loved for good reason as was Benifit. Punk sure hasn't held up very well and for good reason.

 
I honestly do not no why I should even bother to reply to you since you found it necessary to insult me in a previous post-but here it goes.Most serious music critics recognize the Ramones ,the Clash,Iggy Pop,-both solo and with The Stooges-The Damned,and The Stranglers among many others,as being critically and musically successful Punk and Punk influenced artists.I had the displeasure the other day of listening to the title tack from Aqualung.To me,it has not stood the test of time.Besides being being a lazy Zeppellin riff rip-off(who in turn were Blues and Rock artist plagiarizers.)Ian Anderson has a truly terrible singing voice when he (over)emotes.While the first three Tull ,albums were good to excellent,Aqualung shows an ego-inflated Tull overreaching and coming up way short-a trend which has continued,with the exception of Minstrel in the Gallery-to the present day.
 TerryS wrote:

Perhaps so, but are you in turn oblivious to "their" choices in music?
I happen to like Jethro T, but not all of it, since I can only stand on one leg for so long. 
I am chary of blanket statements, Dennis.

 



I like the playful pun on my last name.Putting that aside,I have seen so many inferior songs by 60s and 70s legacy artists slightly to hugely overrated whereas many other deserving artists from all of modern rock decades not getting the fair recognition they deserve.
 dennis_chary wrote:
In my mid to late adolescence,I went through a phase of worshiping Tull. I subsequently discovered Punk, New Wave,and "Alternative." Of course,these musicians from the Punk etc. movement despised the old Progressive "dinosaurs"-and often for good reasons.While I've come to see a lot of JT's music less charitably than i used to,this atavistic and mournful song holds up very well-much more so than anything off of the highly overrated "Aqualung." Unfortunately the pretty good but overrated "Locomotive Breath" is rated much more highly than this song;again demonstrating that many of the Radio Paradise listeners must be oblivious to what is truly great music.

 
Perhaps so, but are you in turn oblivious to "their" choices in music?
I happen to like Jethro T, but not all of it, since I can only stand on one leg for so long. 
I am chary of blanket statements, Dennis.
 dennis_chary wrote:
In my mid to late adolescence,I went through a phase of worshiping Tull. I subsequently discovered Punk, New Wave,and "Alternative." Of course,these musicians from the Punk etc. movement despised the old Progressive "dinosaurs"-and often for good reasons.While I've come to see a lot of JT's music less charitably than i used to,this atavistic and mournful song holds up very well-much more so than anything off of the highly overrated "Aqualung." Unfortunately the pretty good but overrated "Locomotive Breath" is rated much more highly than this song;again demonstrating that many of the Radio Paradise listeners must be oblivious to what is truly great music.

 
Opinions are like assholes blah blah blah etc.....having got that out of the way here's mine..... Most of Tull was great and still continues to be so. Aqualung wasn't over rated, it was loved for good reason as was Benifit. Punk sure hasn't held up very well and for good reason.
We need a higher than 10 scale —for songs like this!! And this isn't even my fave JT song!
In my mid to late adolescence,I went through a phase of worshiping Tull. I subsequently discovered Punk, New Wave,and "Alternative." Of course,these musicians from the Punk etc. movement despised the old Progressive "dinosaurs"-and often for good reasons.While I've come to see a lot of JT's music less charitably than i used to,this atavistic and mournful song holds up very well-much more so than anything off of the highly overrated "Aqualung." Unfortunately the pretty good but overrated "Locomotive Breath" is rated much more highly than this song;again demonstrating that many of the Radio Paradise listeners must be oblivious to what is truly great music.


For those under 50 (geez)...once upon a time, RnR use to be an experimental music form...flutes and all.

Today...nah. All ya get now is the formula of "thud and drone", boring, monotonic, souless, hookless.

RnR...RIP.  
 scrubbrush wrote:
I love flute rock

 
I have a fever....and the prescription is more flute...I love it too...cuz they make that shit work in a theatrical way that Rocks!!!


I love flute rock
 misterbearbaby wrote:
This song always makes me feel melancholy, but I've already got a head like a melon and a face like a collie...

 
And infinite sadness?
This song always makes me feel melancholy, but I've already got a head like a melon and a face like a collie...
 {#Lol}

Stingray wrote:

YES - awesome indeed!

How many years ago? Fourty+5...?

AMAZING!!

 

PS

84 naive music-fans rated this "1"...?

Grey aliens?

 



 


 daveinnj wrote:
By far the creepiest song I've ever heard. Hit's me to the core. 
Like I was abducted, drugged and left in the jungle.
 

 
Cool!!! I liked it as well {#Bananajam}
By far the creepiest song I've ever heard. Hit's me to the core. 
Like I was abducted, drugged and left in the jungle.
 
Lot of seeds in this album cover !
Timeless ......
Has to be in my top 10 songs EVER!! {#Bounce}
This is awesome Tull, just love the way Ian's heavy breathy flute and Barre's guitar sends my imagination soaring, timeless joy!
bravooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
 
The BEST Tull song!!
One of their best, though not well known... 10!
I had forgotten what a great tune that is. I'll have to iPod that one. 
 mistabird wrote:
ja super das ist doch mal gute musik  DANKE  {#Good-vibes}

 

Was heisst denn "doch mal"...?

Der Rest ist Scheisse, oder was...?


YES - awesome indeed!

How many years ago? Fourty+5...?

AMAZING!!

 

PS

84 naive music-fans rated this "1"...?

Grey aliens?

 


Awesomeawesomeawesomr
The coolest of the cool.  Come on folks, this deserves better than a 6.7!
nice to hear more from the huge and varied back catalogue.  not my fav, but its a start., now, on to heavy horses, broadsword and stormwatch before minstrel and knave.
 SchoepTone wrote:
Vintage Tull is always great. Note - New Ian Anderson Thick as a Brick II disk is his best in years. Would like to hear some of it here as well.

  upload it....{#Dance}


 25demayo wrote:


And 5 months later 81/81

 
And...what is the big deal?  Its not like the ratings curve is bimodal.  The median tells you a lot more.    
ja super das ist doch mal gute musik  DANKE  {#Good-vibes}
 SensorJ wrote:
For several years, way back when, Tull just ruled. Songs like this are the are why.
 
very well put.
For several years, way back when, Tull just ruled. Songs like this are the are why.
 Nurs wrote:
Fantastic, as usual.
 

perfect!
 kurtster wrote:

Currently 78 /78
 

And 5 months later 81/81
Vintage Tull is always great. Note - New Ian Anderson Thick as a Brick II disk is his best in years. Would like to hear some of it here as well.
This song is making me turn off RP.  Painful.  {#Sick}
Fantastic, as usual.
 Stingray wrote:
No kidding!

68 people voted the song "1"

and another

68 voted the song to be a "10"

 
Currently 78 /78
Great old Tull song. Very glad to hear this pop up on RP once in a while. The haters should give the old JT stuff a chance before casting their condemnations. It's a little different but isn't what you want anyway? 
 billybob123 wrote:
Easily my favorite Tull album, then and now.  "Teacher" is still a standout track among standout tracks.  Benefit just may be a desert isle disc.
 
Way back then, I bought this on the strength of "Teacher," and wasn't too disappointed—as I recall. At some point Reprise runs a contest either through Rolling Stone or local radio: first one to submit the total time of Benefit wins something. Easy, right? Here was the catch: on the original pressing of the album, there are no track times. I imagined then, and even now methinks, the suits at Reprise getting a chuckle out of very-stoned-and-very-confused-hippies trying to figure out the track times. I thought then—and I think now, "Fuck them."

Just gonna pop in to say: "Damn, why does Jethro Tull sound so good to me?"
Well, my parents had the albums—-but I did not overhear it. I'll give it a 9.
Yes. Godlike for 42 years now. Sick to say that. But was there then and there now too.
this is always the godlike track for me.
clearly didn't help with this song however..
I've always liked Martin Barre's guitar work - especially his tone.
 RedGuitar wrote:

I hear ya.  The first three Tull CDs are great.  And then came Aqualung - another classic.  I started to lose track of them
after that.
 
Agreed
I liked this album more then than I do now.  But I still think that their first, This Was, was their best.
Is it OK to only enjoy it when they lay off the signature pan pipes?
Had to give this song a 1 and it turns out I already had.