Emerson, Lake & Palmer — From The Beginning
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There might have been things I missed
But don't be unkind
It don't mean I'm blind
Perhaps there's a thing or two
I think of lying in bed
I shouldn't have said
But there it is
You see it's all clear
You were meant to be here
From the beginning
Maybe I might have changed
And not been so cruel
Not been such a fool
Whatever was done is done
I just can't recall
It doesn't matter at all
You see it's all clear
You were meant to be here
From the beginning
But don't be unkind
It don't mean I'm blind
Perhaps there's a thing or two
I think of lying in bed
I shouldn't have said
But there it is
You see it's all clear
You were meant to be here
From the beginning
Maybe I might have changed
And not been so cruel
Not been such a fool
Whatever was done is done
I just can't recall
It doesn't matter at all
You see it's all clear
You were meant to be here
From the beginning
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Indeed timelless... nice nice
Timeless....
Oh...that bass, Lovely.
If ever there was a perfect piece of music, this is it.
Would give it higher than 10 if I could! Absolute perfection!
Pioneers! Sounded great even on my am car radio in the 70s
Love this song, but, is it just me, or does the balance between the vocal and instrumentation seem just a little off? I find myself wishing the vocal volume was just a wee bit louder in proportion.
@ and for Pjesnik,
Loved this in your comment:
"Vivid memories seems the only strong currrency a man can own these days after all (these years)."
Loved this in your comment:
"Vivid memories seems the only strong currrency a man can own these days after all (these years)."
First song of ELP that captured my imagination.
Still love Pictures at an Exhibition.
Still love Pictures at an Exhibition.
When I was a wee boy about age of 10, I saw a commercial on a local TV for a hair shampoo. In it there was a snipet of this song (synth instrumrntal part). Little did I know then whose these song was.
Fast forward 8 yrs, I was sitting one evening in my rented room while attending high school. Listening on a transistor radio some foreign station on MW band with a lot of noise. Still I recall vividly the first few bars of 'The fanfare for the common man' and the DJ saying it was ELP.
Vivid memories sems the only strong currrency a man can own these days after all (these years).
Fast forward 8 yrs, I was sitting one evening in my rented room while attending high school. Listening on a transistor radio some foreign station on MW band with a lot of noise. Still I recall vividly the first few bars of 'The fanfare for the common man' and the DJ saying it was ELP.
Vivid memories sems the only strong currrency a man can own these days after all (these years).
Cant quite believe how good this sounds on Bluesound MQA stream , have you turned the quality up ?
Highlowsel wrote:
I am similarly situated, friend. And I ask myself, in a bemused but pleased echo of David Byrne, "How did I get here?"
Life is good, especially if you're as lucky as I have been.
ELP, Jethro Tull, Moody Blues, Steely Dan, Allman Brothers, Steve Ray Vaughn, Black Oak Arkansas, ZZ Top, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton and let's not forget the women of the era, Chrissy Hyde, Janis Joplin, Grace Slick, Joan Jett, Patti Smith, the pantheon of rack-n-roll arrogance strutting thru that period of my life, making it the background soundtrack for me. A time when I didn't have much going for myself except trying to pursue an advanced education, and doing so in a rather haphazard fashion I must admit, too.
But for all that it was the freest I have ever been in life with the possible exception of now. So here I am well along and into the other side of that arc of life, still healthy which would shock the shit out of me excepting I've a +90yr old set of parents who're still alive and functional. I guess my biology runs on good coding. The kids that sprung from me are long fledged and flown the nest, the missus gone, too, And here I am right back where I started. Just a bit more bemused by all the in-between from then to now. I find myself asking myself, "Okay....now what?" Don't you? ;-)
While that pantheon has changed since I do like a lot of the stuff now being put out that was the time that defined me, it's the baseline from which I now spring into whatever it is that's setting up to come next. If you bothered to read this far I wish you much luck in doing the same!
Highlow~
I am similarly situated, friend. And I ask myself, in a bemused but pleased echo of David Byrne, "How did I get here?"
Life is good, especially if you're as lucky as I have been.
Yet another beautiful version. ❤️
Thank you William.
Thank you William.
Foot wrote:
LOL
Marginal then, marginal now...
LOL
Highlowsel wrote:
Very well stated! that is why we listen to RP!
ELP, Jethro Tull, Moody Blues, Steely Dan, Allman Brothers, Steve Ray Vaughn, Black Oak Arkansas, ZZ Top, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton and let's not forget the women of the era, Chrissy Hyde, Janis Joplin, Grace Slick, Joan Jett, Patti Smith, the pantheon of rack-n-roll arrogance strutting thru that period of my life, making it the background soundtrack for me. A time when I didn't have much going for myself except trying to pursue an advanced education, and doing so in a rather haphazard fashion I must admit, too.
But for all that it was the freest I have ever been in life with the possible exception of now. So here I am well along and into the other side of that arc of life, still healthy which would shock the shit out of me excepting I've a +90yr old set of parents who're still alive and functional. I guess my biology runs on good coding. The kids that sprung from me are long fledged and flown the nest, the missus gone, too, And here I am right back where I started. Just a bit more bemused by all the in-between from then to now. I find myself asking myself, "Okay....now what?" Don't you? ;-)
While that pantheon has changed since I do like a lot of the stuff now being put out that was the time that defined me, it's the baseline from which I now spring into whatever it is that's setting up to come next. If you bothered to read this far I wish you much luck in doing the same!
Highlow~
Very well stated! that is why we listen to RP!
ELP, Jethro Tull, Moody Blues, Steely Dan, Allman Brothers, Steve Ray Vaughn, Black Oak Arkansas, ZZ Top, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton and let's not forget the women of the era, Chrissy Hyde, Janis Joplin, Grace Slick, Joan Jett, Patti Smith, the pantheon of rack-n-roll arrogance strutting thru that period of my life, making it the background soundtrack for me. A time when I didn't have much going for myself except trying to pursue an advanced education, and doing so in a rather haphazard fashion I must admit, too.
But for all that it was the freest I have ever been in life with the possible exception of now. So here I am well along and into the other side of that arc of life, still healthy which would shock the shit out of me excepting I've a +90yr old set of parents who're still alive and functional. I guess my biology runs on good coding. The kids that sprung from me are long fledged and flown the nest, the missus gone, too, And here I am right back where I started. Just a bit more bemused by all the in-between from then to now. I find myself asking myself, "Okay....now what?" Don't you? ;-)
While that pantheon has changed since I do like a lot of the stuff now being put out that was the time that defined me, it's the baseline from which I now spring into whatever it is that's setting up to come next. If you bothered to read this far I wish you much luck in doing the same!
Highlow~
But for all that it was the freest I have ever been in life with the possible exception of now. So here I am well along and into the other side of that arc of life, still healthy which would shock the shit out of me excepting I've a +90yr old set of parents who're still alive and functional. I guess my biology runs on good coding. The kids that sprung from me are long fledged and flown the nest, the missus gone, too, And here I am right back where I started. Just a bit more bemused by all the in-between from then to now. I find myself asking myself, "Okay....now what?" Don't you? ;-)
While that pantheon has changed since I do like a lot of the stuff now being put out that was the time that defined me, it's the baseline from which I now spring into whatever it is that's setting up to come next. If you bothered to read this far I wish you much luck in doing the same!
Highlow~
Fifty years ago, driving across the country in the pre-Interstate days, this was in the 8-track .... now I feel old (again).
Two years later I heard them do Brain Salad Surgery at the Olympiahalle in Munich.
Two years later I heard them do Brain Salad Surgery at the Olympiahalle in Munich.
Steely_D wrote:
Great post, SD. Sounds like you and I are on the same page re ELP (and Steely Dan).
When he killed himself my college buddies called me to see if I was OK. Tells you something about how much I thought of Keith, and how much they think of me.
Saw them in Jackson, MS, pre-Works and a friend let me into the gen admission portion before anyone else. Like moth to a flame I walked straight up to the railing in front of the keys and stood transfixed. (High point: I yelled "KNIFE EDGE" and Keith looked at me, smiled, nodded - but didn't play it)
Saw them in Jackson, MS, pre-Works and a friend let me into the gen admission portion before anyone else. Like moth to a flame I walked straight up to the railing in front of the keys and stood transfixed. (High point: I yelled "KNIFE EDGE" and Keith looked at me, smiled, nodded - but didn't play it)
Great post, SD. Sounds like you and I are on the same page re ELP (and Steely Dan).Some of those guitar riffs and the somber early 1970s sound reminds me a bit of Bread. I wonder if they took a little inspiration from ELP.
On_The_Beach wrote:
When he killed himself my college buddies called me to see if I was OK. Tells you something about how much I thought of Keith, and how much they think of me.
Saw them in Jackson, MS, pre-Works and a friend let me into the gen admission portion before anyone else. Like moth to a flame I walked straight up to the railing in front of the keys and stood transfixed. (High point: I yelled "KNIFE EDGE" and Keith looked at me, smiled, nodded - but didn't play it)
I worshipped at the altar of ELP back in highschool.
So sad to hear about Keith's passing, especially in light of the way it happened.
R.I.P.
So sad to hear about Keith's passing, especially in light of the way it happened.
R.I.P.
When he killed himself my college buddies called me to see if I was OK. Tells you something about how much I thought of Keith, and how much they think of me.
Saw them in Jackson, MS, pre-Works and a friend let me into the gen admission portion before anyone else. Like moth to a flame I walked straight up to the railing in front of the keys and stood transfixed. (High point: I yelled "KNIFE EDGE" and Keith looked at me, smiled, nodded - but didn't play it)
acolt wrote:
I liked your comment just because we seem to be polar opposites, if that makes sense! I am all in ELP up to Trilogy, and not so much after that LOL.
Beyond Karn Evil 9, I just can't get into Emerson Lake & Palmer. I mean, this is still pretty good, but not like earth-shattering. But Karn Evil 9 does rock.
I liked your comment just because we seem to be polar opposites, if that makes sense! I am all in ELP up to Trilogy, and not so much after that LOL.
marcloans1 wrote:
completely agree! fabulous tune.
Timeless. One of the most beautiful rock songs ever written. Every component merges perfectly.
completely agree! fabulous tune.
Timeless. One of the most beautiful rock songs ever written. Every component merges perfectly.
This song grabs my heart still.
Beyond Karn Evil 9, I just can't get into Emerson Lake & Palmer. I mean, this is still pretty good, but not like earth-shattering. But Karn Evil 9 does rock.
Just LOVE this song!!!! Brings back happy memories of my late Mum. It was one of the few songs I listened to as a kid that she enjoyed (she was a music teacher). She loved Lake’s pronunciation of ‘clear’ - clea_ahr !
This song is brilliant, a touch of sadness and world weariness thrown in.
below72 wrote:
Horace Silver, "Song for My Father"
It's so good, that it's right up there with: Rikki Don't Lose That Number ....
Horace Silver, "Song for My Father"
One of the many RP songs I wish lasted much longer.
Thank you for playing that track. So beautiful.
I saw them at the Isle of Wight festival l970 so any time I hear them brings back memories.
I saw them at the Isle of Wight festival l970 so any time I hear them brings back memories.
molson wrote:
Very well stated!
Beyond the glass ceiling of 10...this is a 12...but there it is.
Very well stated!
Beyond the glass ceiling of 10...this is a 12...but there it is.
Funny how the soft pieces from this band that as a kid I used to wait patiently through until all the wild hard pieces came after, are now the best things to listen to now. Or am I just getting old.
Another quip:
This song is kind of an Emerson, Lake, Lake, Lake, Lake and Palmer piece since Greg does vocals, bass, acoustic guitar, and lead guitar.
Another quip:
This song is kind of an Emerson, Lake, Lake, Lake, Lake and Palmer piece since Greg does vocals, bass, acoustic guitar, and lead guitar.
The opening guitar bars seem to reference/quote a melody hook from Roundabout by Yes.
Lisa N., every time I hear this, you shall forever be on my mind not just because of the way I felt about you but also the way you felt about this song. It truly IS spell-binding. Thanks, RP, for keeping the quantum-entanglements strong!
still godlike after all this time...turned it up to 11.
morganmike wrote:
Yes, your mom and I agree, we had a great night. She's really a tiger! Grrrrrr!
Such a gorgeous piece of music to celebrate the wonderful news from the States tonight...
Yes, your mom and I agree, we had a great night. She's really a tiger! Grrrrrr!
laozilover wrote:
I don't know about that. I am listening to the FLAC stream through a Denafrips Aries II DAC and with a Velodyne subwoofer. Try a better DAC before you give digital the heave ho!
Maybe not so much on this particular album, but on their first there are spots where the bottom end just cuts off, especially apparent when listed to side by side with the vinyl. And for the record, I'm listening on Pro audio gear - Focal CMS 40's paired with a Focal Sub6, through a Dangerous Source DAC.
Equipment only sounds as good as the data it's fed.
I don't know about that. I am listening to the FLAC stream through a Denafrips Aries II DAC and with a Velodyne subwoofer. Try a better DAC before you give digital the heave ho!
Maybe not so much on this particular album, but on their first there are spots where the bottom end just cuts off, especially apparent when listed to side by side with the vinyl. And for the record, I'm listening on Pro audio gear - Focal CMS 40's paired with a Focal Sub6, through a Dangerous Source DAC.
Equipment only sounds as good as the data it's fed.
acferrad wrote:
They have an annoying habit of doing that with many artists. My only criticism of R.P.
not knocking RP, but there are many other superb tracks on this album well worth playing, not just this one which is unfortunately getting played to death
They have an annoying habit of doing that with many artists. My only criticism of R.P.
not knocking RP, but there are many other superb tracks on this album well worth playing, not just this one which is unfortunately getting played to death
adelord wrote:
Thanks for the heads up. I'm off to research Trilogy etc.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm off to research Trilogy etc.
rabaak wrote:
Started listening to ELP when I found out Lake went from King Crimson to ELP.
I wonder if I would have ever figured out that I really liked classical music if I had never listened to ELP. I have an extensive classical library thanks to listening to toccatas and concertos from ELP.
We sang a song they covered in church today, Jerusalem.
I think Emerson's classical training lead them to do stuff like Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for a common man and other classical stuff.
But Trilogy was probably there best overall album.
It is hard to believe both Emerson and Lake are gone.
I wonder if I would have ever figured out that I really liked classical music if I had never listened to ELP. I have an extensive classical library thanks to listening to toccatas and concertos from ELP.
We sang a song they covered in church today, Jerusalem.
I think Emerson's classical training lead them to do stuff like Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for a common man and other classical stuff.
But Trilogy was probably there best overall album.
It is hard to believe both Emerson and Lake are gone.
Always enjoy hearing this!
Has it really been 5 years since we lost Emerson?
What a delightful tune from ELP. Much better then their pompous overbearing classical covers.
Proclivities wrote:
Maybe part of what now makes it (seem like) a magic time was that we were all 45 years younger.
It seems as though we're all fairly close in yrs...I'd have to challenge the "maybe"....."things" back "ago" that we refer to....no, I truly believe, although, perhaps not "magical", they were definitely a different and, seemingly, a "better" way of life. I had to, literally, pick my jaw up off the floor, when I first heard of students having to PAY, themselves, for any/all equipment needed to play a SCHOOL SPONSORED sport!!! Whatever happened to that fighting school spirit, and support, of the school one goes to?!!!? I suppose it went to teacher's pay....not a totally bad thing.
Maybe part of what now makes it (seem like) a magic time was that we were all 45 years younger.
had it on vinyl, great memories.
fredriley wrote:
I think you mean Rick Wakeman's baroque noodling - it's Rick who can't play a melody without mordents, trills, appoggiaturas and acciaccaturas.
ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.
I think you mean Rick Wakeman's baroque noodling - it's Rick who can't play a melody without mordents, trills, appoggiaturas and acciaccaturas.
....song for the universe!!! Jelani wrote:
Yeah, the digital, CD versions lose SO much! Especially the low end.
I don't know about that. I am listening to the FLAC stream through a Denafrips Aries II DAC and with a Velodyne subwoofer. Try a better DAC before you give digital the heave ho!
Yeah, the digital, CD versions lose SO much! Especially the low end.
I don't know about that. I am listening to the FLAC stream through a Denafrips Aries II DAC and with a Velodyne subwoofer. Try a better DAC before you give digital the heave ho!
I sit here stunned. I have heard this track hundreds of times and never noticed the lower pitched musical voice that followed below the high pitched voice, which I took to be a solo voice at the end of this piece. Wow. Have I had inferior hi-fi gear all these years? 
Such a gorgeous piece of music to celebrate the wonderful news from the States tonight...
jwallstrom846 wrote:
Yes but his golf career really took off after he did...
The group was never the same after Arnold Palmer left
Yes but his golf career really took off after he did...
Happy to hear this anytime. Although I don't hear it often which is why it remains special. 
The group was never the same after Arnold Palmer left
rabaak wrote:
At the rate most rock stars expire, it's actually harder to believe they lived as long as they did. Still, I can lay my love for classical music at the feet of ELP as well. Fanfare for the Common Man blew me away.
Started listening to ELP when I found out Lake went from King Crimson to ELP.
I wonder if I would have ever figured out that I really liked classical music if I had never listened to ELP. I have an extensive classical library thanks to listening to toccatas and concertos from ELP.
We sang a song they covered in church today, Jerusalem.
I think Emerson's classical training lead them to do stuff like Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for a common man and other classical stuff.
But Trilogy was probably there best overall album.
It is hard to believe both Emerson and Lake are gone.
I wonder if I would have ever figured out that I really liked classical music if I had never listened to ELP. I have an extensive classical library thanks to listening to toccatas and concertos from ELP.
We sang a song they covered in church today, Jerusalem.
I think Emerson's classical training lead them to do stuff like Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for a common man and other classical stuff.
But Trilogy was probably there best overall album.
It is hard to believe both Emerson and Lake are gone.
At the rate most rock stars expire, it's actually harder to believe they lived as long as they did. Still, I can lay my love for classical music at the feet of ELP as well. Fanfare for the Common Man blew me away.
My first album back when Methuselah was a boy.
Still sounds great to me.
fredriley wrote:
It hasn't dated at all. It's as brilliant, fresh and ground-breaking as when it was released. I think you might be thinking of Duran Duran.
ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.
It hasn't dated at all. It's as brilliant, fresh and ground-breaking as when it was released. I think you might be thinking of Duran Duran.
Sounds as good as the first listening to the album, back in 73
sm11 wrote:
STFU troll
Anyone else think the three ladies on the album cover are hot?
STFU troll
rabaak wrote:
I agree. The interpretation of Aaron Copeland's hoedown was also amazing.
Started listening to ELP when I found out Lake went from King Crimson to ELP.
I wonder if I would have ever figured out that I really liked classical music if I had never listened to ELP. I have an extensive classical library thanks to listening to toccatas and concertos from ELP.
We sang a song they covered in church today, Jerusalem.
I think Emerson's classical training lead them to do stuff like Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for a common man and other classical stuff.
But Trilogy was probably there best overall album.
It is hard to believe both Emerson and Lake are gone.
I wonder if I would have ever figured out that I really liked classical music if I had never listened to ELP. I have an extensive classical library thanks to listening to toccatas and concertos from ELP.
We sang a song they covered in church today, Jerusalem.
I think Emerson's classical training lead them to do stuff like Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for a common man and other classical stuff.
But Trilogy was probably there best overall album.
It is hard to believe both Emerson and Lake are gone.
I agree. The interpretation of Aaron Copeland's hoedown was also amazing.
fredriley wrote:
Yep, I'll second that. I also worshipped ELP and Keith Emerson, and the group was the only musical taste of mine to which my Dad approved as Emerson was a classically-trained pianist. I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.
Fredriley, that is a very astute observation. However, I would slightly disagree when you mention that ELP's music has not withstood the test of time. Tarkus was a fine piece of music and since you're obviously a fellow-ELP fan, I would encourage you to give it another listen.
Yep, I'll second that. I also worshipped ELP and Keith Emerson, and the group was the only musical taste of mine to which my Dad approved as Emerson was a classically-trained pianist. I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.
Fredriley, that is a very astute observation. However, I would slightly disagree when you mention that ELP's music has not withstood the test of time. Tarkus was a fine piece of music and since you're obviously a fellow-ELP fan, I would encourage you to give it another listen.
Anyone else think the three ladies on the album cover are hot?
Gave it a 9 because I love ELP
Many comments that this sounds so much better on quality audio equipment.
Still will never equal the way it sounded live.
Prog rock engulfed you live.
Genesis, ELP, Yes; they were almost religious experiences.
I'm 58 . At 12 started to roknroll . That means forty two years listening this and enjoiyng it,
Jelani wrote:
Yeah, the digital, CD versions lose SO much! Especially the low end.
Your mind would be blown if you heard it in 5.1 surround.
Yeah, the digital, CD versions lose SO much! Especially the low end.
Your mind would be blown if you heard it in 5.1 surround.
obankenobi wrote:
Also sounds insane at high dB's on original vinyl thru a great HiFi system, 500 WPC and big JBL's
Yeah, the digital, CD versions lose SO much! Especially the low end.
Also sounds insane at high dB's on original vinyl thru a great HiFi system, 500 WPC and big JBL's
Yeah, the digital, CD versions lose SO much! Especially the low end.
Looking at the playlist for ELP here, it looks like the catalog could be greatly expanded. They had a lot of great music.
lizardking wrote:
Complete truth there, unclehud….I've FINALLY obtained a pretty good audio-first cell phone, paired with relatively good pair of headphones and streaming the FLAC....sounds freaking great....though I can't re-rate my 10 any higher....LLRP!!
Also sounds insane at high dB's on original vinyl thru a great HiFi system, 500 WPC and big JBL's
Complete truth there, unclehud….I've FINALLY obtained a pretty good audio-first cell phone, paired with relatively good pair of headphones and streaming the FLAC....sounds freaking great....though I can't re-rate my 10 any higher....LLRP!!
Also sounds insane at high dB's on original vinyl thru a great HiFi system, 500 WPC and big JBL's
My ears say thank you Bill and RP!
@ pontfarrer....I'll second that!! Hard for me to choose though....Trilogy or Brain Salad!! Lol ✌️ Thanks RP, for keeping such great tunes alive!!
unclehud wrote:
Complete truth there, unclehud….I've FINALLY obtained a pretty good audio-first cell phone, paired with relatively good pair of headphones and streaming the FLAC....sounds freaking great....though I can't re-rate my 10 any higher....LLRP!!
A classic headphone tune ... because of Greg's melodic bass line, the overlapping guitars, the super-quiet background, and the several start-stop lurches sprinkled throughout.
Complete truth there, unclehud….I've FINALLY obtained a pretty good audio-first cell phone, paired with relatively good pair of headphones and streaming the FLAC....sounds freaking great....though I can't re-rate my 10 any higher....LLRP!!
Great band!
A classic headphone tune ... because of Greg's melodic bass line, the overlapping guitars, the super-quiet background, and the several start-stop lurches sprinkled throughout.
below72 wrote:
Thanks for that. I will listen to it differently now. Great song.
Over the years, when I've heard this tune on RP I have always reviewed the new comments. And it seems most everyone expresses some sentiment about a time gone by with references to the guitar line. No doubt, it is fantastic. Several acoustics and a twelve string created a masterpiece. But note...
Very few folks have ever commented on maybe one of the best bass lines ever written.
It's so good, that it's right up there with: Rikki Don't Lose That Number, My Cheri Amour, What's Goin' On, Little Help From My Friends, Signed, Sealed, Delivered...(hell then, everything that ever came out of Motown for that matter)...I could go on.
In short, if there is a tune you really like, go back and pick out the bass line. I would bet that bass chart is chunky, moving sweet tones, of pure dynamics and emotion.
Greg had that in spades.
Lastly....long live the P-Bass. If you are truly a player, you own at least one. You know what mean!
Very few folks have ever commented on maybe one of the best bass lines ever written.
It's so good, that it's right up there with: Rikki Don't Lose That Number, My Cheri Amour, What's Goin' On, Little Help From My Friends, Signed, Sealed, Delivered...(hell then, everything that ever came out of Motown for that matter)...I could go on.
In short, if there is a tune you really like, go back and pick out the bass line. I would bet that bass chart is chunky, moving sweet tones, of pure dynamics and emotion.
Greg had that in spades.
Lastly....long live the P-Bass. If you are truly a player, you own at least one. You know what mean!
Thanks for that. I will listen to it differently now. Great song.
Proclivities wrote:
Maybe part of what now makes it (seem like) a magic time was that we were all 45 years younger.
Exactly! When I was minus 3, I loved this music! I do have this etched in my earliest memories from my dad playing it, and boy I'm glad he turned me onto the great music from the 60s/70s. Long Live RP and RIP to my gone-4-years-now-dad!!
Maybe part of what now makes it (seem like) a magic time was that we were all 45 years younger.
Exactly! When I was minus 3, I loved this music! I do have this etched in my earliest memories from my dad playing it, and boy I'm glad he turned me onto the great music from the 60s/70s. Long Live RP and RIP to my gone-4-years-now-dad!!
I would have given eleven - if only possible!!!
I just had to stop and listen to this, it's one of those rare tunes that carry you away to some other place
below72 wrote:
Funny that you're mentioning that because I've always believed the bass is actually the most important instrument in a band. Take any planetary hit in history, it's always seated on a great bass line. The bassist is often the only discrete guy who's clean and able to hold the band together. The responsibility is huge; one single wrong note and the whole song is wasted.
Over the years, when I've heard this tune on RP I have always reviewed the new comments. And it seems most everyone expresses some sentiment about a time gone by with references to the guitar line. No doubt, it is fantastic. Several acoustics and a twelve string created a masterpiece. But note...
Very few folks have ever commented on maybe one of the best bass lines ever written.
It's so good, that it's right up there with: Rikki Don't Lose That Number, My Cheri Amour, What's Goin' On, Little Help From My Friends, Signed, Sealed, Delivered...(hell then, everything that ever came out of Motown for that matter)...I could go on.
In short, if there is a tune you really like, go back and pick out the bass line. I would bet that bass chart is chunky, moving sweet tones, of pure dynamics and emotion.
Greg had that in spades.
Lastly....long live the P-Bass. If you are truly a player, you own at least one. You know what mean!
Very few folks have ever commented on maybe one of the best bass lines ever written.
It's so good, that it's right up there with: Rikki Don't Lose That Number, My Cheri Amour, What's Goin' On, Little Help From My Friends, Signed, Sealed, Delivered...(hell then, everything that ever came out of Motown for that matter)...I could go on.
In short, if there is a tune you really like, go back and pick out the bass line. I would bet that bass chart is chunky, moving sweet tones, of pure dynamics and emotion.
Greg had that in spades.
Lastly....long live the P-Bass. If you are truly a player, you own at least one. You know what mean!
Funny that you're mentioning that because I've always believed the bass is actually the most important instrument in a band. Take any planetary hit in history, it's always seated on a great bass line. The bassist is often the only discrete guy who's clean and able to hold the band together. The responsibility is huge; one single wrong note and the whole song is wasted.
My Favorite Art Rock Album
. Listen to their rendition of Copeland's 'Hoedown'
. Listen to their rendition of Copeland's 'Hoedown'
Over the years, when I've heard this tune on RP I have always reviewed the new comments. And it seems most everyone expresses some sentiment about a time gone by with references to the guitar line. No doubt, it is fantastic. Several acoustics and a twelve string created a masterpiece. But note...
Very few folks have ever commented on maybe one of the best bass lines ever written.
It's so good, that it's right up there with: Rikki Don't Lose That Number, My Cheri Amour, What's Goin' On, Little Help From My Friends, Signed, Sealed, Delivered...(hell then, everything that ever came out of Motown for that matter)...I could go on.
In short, if there is a tune you really like, go back and pick out the bass line. I would bet that bass chart is chunky, moving sweet tones, of pure dynamics and emotion.
Greg had that in spades.
Lastly....long live the P-Bass. If you are truly a player, you own at least one. You know what mean!
Very few folks have ever commented on maybe one of the best bass lines ever written.
It's so good, that it's right up there with: Rikki Don't Lose That Number, My Cheri Amour, What's Goin' On, Little Help From My Friends, Signed, Sealed, Delivered...(hell then, everything that ever came out of Motown for that matter)...I could go on.
In short, if there is a tune you really like, go back and pick out the bass line. I would bet that bass chart is chunky, moving sweet tones, of pure dynamics and emotion.
Greg had that in spades.
Lastly....long live the P-Bass. If you are truly a player, you own at least one. You know what mean!
such good music. Seems like a lost time now. What can I say about what mainstream shoves down our throats .. gag .. gag ... this is why I love and support RP .. they take me places :)
countryrds wrote:
Stephen_Phillips wrote:
Maybe part of what now makes it (seem like) a magic time was that we were all 45 years younger.
Magic song for a magic time...
Stephen_Phillips wrote:
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time. For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
Maybe part of what now makes it (seem like) a magic time was that we were all 45 years younger.
Super cool !
Top, pour bosser calmement...
Top, pour bosser calmement...
Lazarus wrote:
I'm right there with y'all...hell I'm gonna go 9→10 finally! Hope you've tipped your maids with all the partying in that damned room of yours 
PEACE and Long Live RP!!
*I don't remember the Siamese triplets album cover though...how could that be? Kinda freaky....*
Steely_D wrote:
Cool post, S_D.
I too had the Trilogy t-shirt!
It's 1977 or so, and me and a few college buddies are lying on our back on the top of the LSU Indian Mounds on a warm Louisiana evening. I might have been wearing my T-shirt with the Trilogy album cover.
One of the guys picks up his guitar and plays this perfectly as we stare at the stars overhead. It was so sad as the moment ended. Moments like that are what makes life special.
One of the guys picks up his guitar and plays this perfectly as we stare at the stars overhead. It was so sad as the moment ended. Moments like that are what makes life special.
Cool post, S_D.
I too had the Trilogy t-shirt!
Stephen_Phillips wrote:
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time. For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
It's 1977 or so, and me and a few college buddies are lying on our back on the top of the LSU Indian Mounds on a warm Louisiana evening. I might have been wearing my T-shirt with the Trilogy album cover.
One of the guys picks up his guitar and plays this perfectly as we stare at the stars overhead. It was so sad as the moment ended. Moments like that are what makes life special.
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time. For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
It's 1977 or so, and me and a few college buddies are lying on our back on the top of the LSU Indian Mounds on a warm Louisiana evening. I might have been wearing my T-shirt with the Trilogy album cover.
One of the guys picks up his guitar and plays this perfectly as we stare at the stars overhead. It was so sad as the moment ended. Moments like that are what makes life special.
earthbased wrote:
True that! This is FLACing awesome! This is one of the first tunes I remember hearing as a kid, thanks to my dad, that sounded great to my young ears, and then eventually the meaning of the lyrics became clear to me. I'm at a 9 and so close to going full 10 on it. Such a great, clear sound that seems to match the lyrical content perfectly. LONG LIVE RP!!
Sounded great on the FLAC feed. Thanks much for the FLAC feed. Listening from Logitech Media Server Community Edition 7.9.1 with RadioParadise FLAC Plugin.
True that! This is FLACing awesome! This is one of the first tunes I remember hearing as a kid, thanks to my dad, that sounded great to my young ears, and then eventually the meaning of the lyrics became clear to me. I'm at a 9 and so close to going full 10 on it. Such a great, clear sound that seems to match the lyrical content perfectly. LONG LIVE RP!!
Sounded great on the FLAC feed. Thanks much for the FLAC feed. Listening from Logitech Media Server Community Edition 7.9.1 with RadioParadise FLAC Plugin.
Perhaps there's a thing or two
I think of lying in bed
I shouldn't have said
. . . But there it is
Always loved those simple but poignant lyrics.
I think of lying in bed
I shouldn't have said
. . . But there it is
Always loved those simple but poignant lyrics.
Stephen_Phillips wrote:
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time. For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
I agree, but I see it as a window not a door. A window into what can be. It is still there, we have just lost our way.
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time. For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
I agree, but I see it as a window not a door. A window into what can be. It is still there, we have just lost our way.
Stephen_Phillips wrote:
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time. For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
That's a pertinent observation, Stephen. I'd agree. I don't know but I get the feeling that it's almost all been done now.
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time. For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
That's a pertinent observation, Stephen. I'd agree. I don't know but I get the feeling that it's almost all been done now.
countryrds wrote:
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time. For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
Magic song for a magic time...
Yes we can say that now but I think you may agree that we did not realise it at the time. For my part I thought it would always be like that and now looking back over the years it makes me a bit sad that it is a time past and a door closed. Maybe future generations will have something like it again.
Magic song for a magic time...
Best.Damn.Song.Ever. RIP, Greg.
jbuhl wrote:
Then somebody else wrote:
" Really sucks to get older or "too old" to do certain things. But it doesn't happen overnight. We get time to see it coming and to at least somewhat adjust. That's what retirement is - not doing the same job you did when younger, or any job, right? I don't know, maybe some can't deal with it."
I have had a couple friend parents end themselves in the last 5 years. Just didn't want to deal with the final stages of old age. One guy was a pilot. Wife died, got to old to fly, perfectly good health otherwise. Just got to old to do what he wanted to do and his life long buddy was gone.
I'm not getting older. It's the people around me that are getting younger.
Then somebody else wrote:
" Really sucks to get older or "too old" to do certain things. But it doesn't happen overnight. We get time to see it coming and to at least somewhat adjust. That's what retirement is - not doing the same job you did when younger, or any job, right? I don't know, maybe some can't deal with it."
I have had a couple friend parents end themselves in the last 5 years. Just didn't want to deal with the final stages of old age. One guy was a pilot. Wife died, got to old to fly, perfectly good health otherwise. Just got to old to do what he wanted to do and his life long buddy was gone.
I'm not getting older. It's the people around me that are getting younger.
Back in the day when I lived in a house full of guitars and had assorted friends whose homes were also full of guitars (*sigh* all those years ago) I was shown how to play this in about 10 minutes. "First play this little bend and riff like this, then these few simple to do chords go like this, then watch my fingers as I pluck"...easier done than said. It was a lotta fun and was no real task to learn at all. Very cool.
Started listening to ELP when I found out Lake went from King Crimson to ELP.
I wonder if I would have ever figured out that I really liked classical music if I had never listened to ELP. I have an extensive classical library thanks to listening to toccatas and concertos from ELP.
We sang a song they covered in church today, Jerusalem.
I think Emerson's classical training lead them to do stuff like Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for a common man and other classical stuff.
But Trilogy was probably there best overall album.
It is hard to believe both Emerson and Lake are gone.
I wonder if I would have ever figured out that I really liked classical music if I had never listened to ELP. I have an extensive classical library thanks to listening to toccatas and concertos from ELP.
We sang a song they covered in church today, Jerusalem.
I think Emerson's classical training lead them to do stuff like Pictures at an Exhibition, Fanfare for a common man and other classical stuff.
But Trilogy was probably there best overall album.
It is hard to believe both Emerson and Lake are gone.
Such a beautiful piece of music...........
Just wonderful!
fredriley wrote:
I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
Then somebody else wrote:
" Really sucks to get older or "too old" to do certain things. But it doesn't happen overnight. We get time to see it coming and to at least somewhat adjust. That's what retirement is - not doing the same job you did when younger, or any job, right? I don't know, maybe some can't deal with it."
I have had a couple friend parents end themselves in the last 5 years. Just didn't want to deal with the final stages of old age. One guy was a pilot. Wife died, got to old to fly, perfectly good health otherwise. Just got to old to do what he wanted to do and his life long buddy was gone.
I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
Then somebody else wrote:
" Really sucks to get older or "too old" to do certain things. But it doesn't happen overnight. We get time to see it coming and to at least somewhat adjust. That's what retirement is - not doing the same job you did when younger, or any job, right? I don't know, maybe some can't deal with it."
I have had a couple friend parents end themselves in the last 5 years. Just didn't want to deal with the final stages of old age. One guy was a pilot. Wife died, got to old to fly, perfectly good health otherwise. Just got to old to do what he wanted to do and his life long buddy was gone.
Probably Greg's best song from his ELP years.
R.I.P.
R.I.P.
RIP Greg Lake
fredriley wrote:
I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
Really sucks to get older or "too old" to do certain things. But it doesn't happen overnight. We get time to see it coming and to at least somewhat adjust. That's what retirement is - not doing the same job you did when younger, or any job, right?
I don't know, maybe some can't deal with it.
I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
Really sucks to get older or "too old" to do certain things. But it doesn't happen overnight. We get time to see it coming and to at least somewhat adjust. That's what retirement is - not doing the same job you did when younger, or any job, right?
I don't know, maybe some can't deal with it.
fredhatman wrote:
Hahahaha! That sounds very similar to something that happened to me. Teenage angst. Same as it ever was... yes.
Sorry, I'm new on here... above comment was meant for colorado john.
Hahahaha! That sounds very similar to something that happened to me. Teenage angst. Same as it ever was... yes.
Sorry, I'm new on here... above comment was meant for colorado john.
coloradojohn wrote:
Hahahaha! That sounds very similar to something that happened to me. Teenage angst. Same as it ever was... yes.
Priceless and precious! Overplayed in its day, but still sounding awesome!
Fall of 1979, I recall driving far to drop in and pay a visit to a gal from school I had a crush on who worked at a place called Tiger Records, and just after I had gotten my hopes raised when she praised and raved about my latest concert photos of Rush, The Who and Kansas, my heart was cracked wide open when this song came over the store sound system, because she sighed and rolled her eyes, "Greg Lake...oh, God...what a dream he is..." I saw it in her eyes, heard it in her voice, saw it in her posture — and gave up and left. Was I jealous of his infinite star power, beyond all reason or logic? I was a teenager — of course I was. I got into my '70 Cutlass, cranked up April Wine's I Like to Rock, and hauled ass to buy beer and round up some drinking buddies...alas, Same As It Ever Was, From the Beginning!
Fall of 1979, I recall driving far to drop in and pay a visit to a gal from school I had a crush on who worked at a place called Tiger Records, and just after I had gotten my hopes raised when she praised and raved about my latest concert photos of Rush, The Who and Kansas, my heart was cracked wide open when this song came over the store sound system, because she sighed and rolled her eyes, "Greg Lake...oh, God...what a dream he is..." I saw it in her eyes, heard it in her voice, saw it in her posture — and gave up and left. Was I jealous of his infinite star power, beyond all reason or logic? I was a teenager — of course I was. I got into my '70 Cutlass, cranked up April Wine's I Like to Rock, and hauled ass to buy beer and round up some drinking buddies...alas, Same As It Ever Was, From the Beginning!
Hahahaha! That sounds very similar to something that happened to me. Teenage angst. Same as it ever was... yes.
fatcatjb wrote:
what a great story!
Hahahaha! That sounds very similar to something that happened to me. Teenage angst. Same as it ever was... yes.
what a great story!
Hahahaha! That sounds very similar to something that happened to me. Teenage angst. Same as it ever was... yes.
I always liked this one. I saw EL&P in Ft Worth in 1972 I think. It was a stupid loud concert, my ears were ringing for hours afterwards. I attribute my present tinnitus in part to that concert. Well, that and a lifetime of loud cars and loud women.
coloradojohn wrote:
what a great story!
Priceless and precious! Overplayed in its day, but still sounding awesome!
Fall of 1979, I recall driving far to drop in and pay a visit to a gal from school I had a crush on who worked at a place called Tiger Records, and just after I had gotten my hopes raised when she praised and raved about my latest concert photos of Rush, The Who and Kansas, my heart was cracked wide open when this song came over the store sound system, because she sighed and rolled her eyes, "Greg Lake...oh, God...what a dream he is..." I saw it in her eyes, heard it in her voice, saw it in her posture — and gave up and left. Was I jealous of his infinite star power, beyond all reason or logic? I was a teenager — of course I was. I got into my '70 Cutlass, cranked up April Wine's I Like to Rock, and hauled ass to buy beer and round up some drinking buddies...alas, Same As It Ever Was, From the Beginning!
Fall of 1979, I recall driving far to drop in and pay a visit to a gal from school I had a crush on who worked at a place called Tiger Records, and just after I had gotten my hopes raised when she praised and raved about my latest concert photos of Rush, The Who and Kansas, my heart was cracked wide open when this song came over the store sound system, because she sighed and rolled her eyes, "Greg Lake...oh, God...what a dream he is..." I saw it in her eyes, heard it in her voice, saw it in her posture — and gave up and left. Was I jealous of his infinite star power, beyond all reason or logic? I was a teenager — of course I was. I got into my '70 Cutlass, cranked up April Wine's I Like to Rock, and hauled ass to buy beer and round up some drinking buddies...alas, Same As It Ever Was, From the Beginning!
what a great story!
Exceptional recording of a great song.
ELP are definitely an acquired taste, but this is different. There's something about it that means it always comes back into my head an hour or two after hearing it.
fredriley wrote:
Yep, I'll second that. I also worshipped ELP and Keith Emerson, and the group was the only musical taste of mine to which my Dad approved as Emerson was a classically-trained pianist. I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.
Beautiful but sad song. Even more after reading your comment.I was once a big ELP-fan too.
Yep, I'll second that. I also worshipped ELP and Keith Emerson, and the group was the only musical taste of mine to which my Dad approved as Emerson was a classically-trained pianist. I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.
Beautiful but sad song. Even more after reading your comment.I was once a big ELP-fan too.
On_The_Beach wrote:
Yep, I'll second that. I also worshipped ELP and Keith Emerson, and the group was the only musical taste of mine to which my Dad approved as Emerson was a classically-trained pianist. I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.
I worshipped at the alter of ELP back in highschool.
So sad to hear about Keith's passing, especially in light of the way it happened.
R.I.P.
So sad to hear about Keith's passing, especially in light of the way it happened.
R.I.P.
Yep, I'll second that. I also worshipped ELP and Keith Emerson, and the group was the only musical taste of mine to which my Dad approved as Emerson was a classically-trained pianist. I read that Emerson offed himself out of perfectionism, that he feared that his fingers could no longer do his bidding in his old age and that his performances would be poor. I don't know how true or not that is, but it is a sad loss to music.
ELP's stuff has, of course, dated very badly, but this and other songs of Greg Lake have greater longevity, I think, mainly due to their simplicity and lack of Emerson's trademark baroque noodling.
I worshipped at the altar of ELP back in highschool.
So sad to hear about Keith's passing, especially in light of the way it happened.
R.I.P.
So sad to hear about Keith's passing, especially in light of the way it happened.
R.I.P.
ELP! Love this (and them) back in the day. And some of their stuff still resonates today. This is one of 'em....
Highlow
American Net'Zen
Highlow
American Net'Zen
Love this song, but, is it just me, or does the balance between the vocal and instrumentation seem just a little off? I find myself wishing the vocal volume was just a wee bit louder in proportion.
The first note of the guitar has always sounded just a tad flat to me